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General N7 2: No OTG support, out of box

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  1. rushmore

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    This seems absolute nuts, unless you are a cloud lover. (No offense to cloud lovers, since clouds also provide rain and shade).

    This from one review (Ubergizmo)

    "Does it work with a USB OTG adapter?
    Unfortunately, if you connect an OTG USB adapter, out of the box, I was not able to read files or even list a directory. The USB drive seems to be powered, but no other communications happens with the tablet. I
     

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    If it's like other nexus devices, it will be a doddle. Hopefully Wug will update his toolkit with 4.3 support meaning it'll be doable in a couple of clicks.

    And the nav bar isn't really an issue, you hardly notice it.
     
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    I was going to zip to BB and get a 32GB until I noticed this. I will hold off now, since even with OTG, I can not stand .6" of diagonal space being taken up by a navigation bar on a smaller display like this. I will test this puppy out when root is ready! Assuming it is easy to root.

    Hopefully root is quick & easy :) Else :(
     
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    I find the Google nav to be annoying but I just install Nova Launcher like I do on all of my devices and it's a non-issue.
     
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    It sounds unchanged from the existing Nexus 7. Rooting is only needed if you require full r/w access to media, otherwise apps like Nexus Media Importer will do the job of reading/copying/streaming/whatever from an OTG device without rooting.
     
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    Nexus Media Importer does support writing to devices formatted as FAT32. I just used it extensively on travel to copy photos from my camera to the N7 and then off to a flash drive.
     
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    I want the ability to read and write to external storage, so will need root. Also want NTFS due to some media file sizes and format of current storage devices I have.

    As far as the nav bar, I thought the bar can only be hid with root. I use Nova too. The issue is the space taken up by the bar.

    Added: With Nova, you can hide the thin status bar, but not the space hogging nav bar and the ease of hitting it by accident when playing a game or even when typing.
     
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    On my current Nexus 7 using stickmount, I can only read, not write NTFS. I believe you need a custom kernel (or at least kernel modules) to enable NTFS write support.
     
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    I didn't say it didn't, but it does need root access to allow it - or certainly did when the write capability was first added. I've used it as long as it has existed but I'm rooted anyway, so I have no way of checking whether it still requires root to write to OTD media.

    Edit: after reading the current documentation it is clear that it can indeed do full r/w of FAT devices without rooting - indeed it doesn't use root access for anything. Perhaps it never did require it; my memory sometimes plays tricks.
     
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    My bad - I should have noted that it does now support the FAT32 writing without root.
     
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    I can "get by" just with Fat32, so the biggie is the ability to high the bottom nav bar. I do not mind it on 10" tablets, but 7" or smaller IMO is too small to have space taken by such things.

    Root is the way to N7 2 harmony for me :)
     
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    am i the only one wondering why anyone is questioning the ability to root a nexus device? dudes.....it's a Nexus.
     
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    Stickmount supports NTFS, but you have to download the file(s) for NTFS and/or exfat listed in the Play store description for Stickmount. Download the appropriate file, extract it and place it in the \sdcard folder. I have full read/write/stream access to sdcards, thumbdrives and my 750Gb Passport hard disk, which is formatted NTFS (it needs external power using a special cable with 2 usb connectors and one micro-usb).
     
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    I was disappointed to learn that my new N7.2 no longer works with my OTG cable and Nexus Media Importer but in reality I don't really need it since I have both a Seagate Wireless 1TB and a Kingston Wi-Drive 16G that I can use to r/w to.
     
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    Interesting. Just tried NMI & OTG on "old" stock N7 running 4.3 and it still works.
     
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    That's what I would expect. If it doesn't work on the new model I'd suspect the OTG rather than the app is to blame. Perhaps there's a hardware change.
     
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    When I tried my new 7.2 with NMI and my OTG cable yesterday, I couldn't get it to work but today (after several reboots) it seems to be working fine. Happy!
     

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