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Support New Android but it seems to be old firmware

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by greggory.hz, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. greggory.hz

    greggory.hz New Member
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    Maybe I'm reading something wrong but when i look at the info on the phone the "Build Number" reads like this: kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC19 109652 ota-rel-keys,release-keys

    From what I understand, we should be up to RC30, though mine says RC19. Is there any explanation for this? How can I force the update? I'm at a loss here ....

    Thanks everyone ....
     

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  2. Awesome

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    Well the only way I heard of forcing the update is to do it manually, but I don't know how to do that.
     
  3. richy240

    richy240 Well-Known Member
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    Just whatever
    H-Town, sucka!
  4. lem

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    Apparently they packed and sealed lots of G1 boxes with R19 firmware pre-installed. If you bought your phone just as it was released, you should have already received R30 update, if you bought it later - you will eventually. I got mine shortly after R30 was pushed to most then active phones. Got the update about 4-5 days after I started using the phone. So, unless you are experiencing some problems that you know are fixed in R30, you can just as well wait until T-mobile pushes an update to your phone. Then it'll tell you something like "update is available, install?" and you tap "Yes" and wait 5 minutes.

    Or you can do manual update, as per the link in post above, if you just can't wait....

    LEM.
     
  5. deten

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    Im not using tmobile, im on att.

    Is it tmobile pushing the updates or google. AKA will I still get them?
     
  6. devolio

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    My G1 doesn't have any service whatsoever and I still received the OTA updates.

    BUT -- if you plan on rooting your phone in the near future, I would NOT update... as of right now, if you install the OTA RC30 the root bug is patched and you can't get root back.
     
  7. deten

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    I dont even know what rooting is.

    On linux some commands can only be made as root... isnt the phone open source? Why would we need a crack to have root access... or what is the point?
     
  8. devolio

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    Whew... loaded question. I'm going to slaughter this in my sleep deprived state, but here goes...

    You're correct, root is a superuser account, meaning it can literally do anything with the system. Hardware, software, files, etc.

    The operating system on the phone is indeed open source, but that doesn't necessarily include root access out of the box like a linux disto would. Obviously, it's in T-Mobile's best interest to keep the phone pretty locked down, to prevent people from bricking them, from messing with the network, and a multitude of other reasons.

    So, onto the meat of the question... Why is having root so important? Modders, application developers, and all of the people that just want to mess with every little byte on the phone need it to be able to access all of the hardware/software as they choose. I've also read (and believe, being a developer myself,) that it will be a huge pain, if not near impossible to install applications onto the SD card and use them without issue without obtaining root access.
     
  9. STORM3333

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    I AM A CHEF BY TRADE AND NOW RUN A RESTAURANT
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    giggles i was just about to do that, then i saw this post. Yay at people helping people! T.g.i.f people!
     
  10. STORM3333

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    I AM A CHEF BY TRADE AND NOW RUN A RESTAURANT
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    Oh yeah and rc-30 is the bizznizz! Runs out!
     
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