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Discussion in 'Politics and Current Affairs' started by Howard Hopkinson, May 31, 2011.

  1. Howard Hopkinson

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    New fear of cancer link to mobile phones


    It seems to me that any links to brain cancer caused by mobile phone use are very tenuous at best.

    Surely, if there was a direct link, given the number of mobile phone users throughout the world, the effects would be very well documented and reported by now.

    What do you guys think?
     

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    I believe that cell phone use increases the risk of cancer. But what are the odds? If the odds of getting cancer from cell phone use are about the same as dying in a car accident I'll continue to use my phone just like I continue to drive my car.
     
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    I aint skeered one darn bit. We need more hard data and so far, what I see is not all too convincing. Very hard to prove if your cell causes problems.

    I know a few amateur radio operators that have been hanging out at 10Ghz and above for many years and so far, their brains still function. One clear sign of brain damage is you forget what you just typed.

    I know a few amateur radio operators that have been hanging out at 10Ghz and above for many years and so far, their brains still function. One clear sign of brain damage is you forget what you just typed.

    I know a few amateur radio operators that have been hanging out at 10Ghz and above for many years and so far, their brains still function. One clear sign of brain damage is you forget what you just typed.

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    Unless it takes a long time for cancers to develop and we won't see problems for perhaps a decade down the road. I think we need more data and a serious study. Then again, people will dispute the study no matter what it says and people are so invested in their mobile devices, it likely will not matter.

    I am still considering building some nice high power microwave radios with a few spare Gunn devices. That is more likely to fry my brain, but one can't live forever.

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    Cute bob cute ;)
     
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    Drinking the water out the tap greatly increases your chances of getting cancer. Breathing the air outside greatly increases your chances of getting cancer. Hell anything you do increases your chances. In the end it doesnt mean you will get cancer.

    Remember to wear your tin foil hats to protect you from your cell phones :p
     
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    Imo theres something in the media every week about some new 'possible' link to causing some kind of cancer; a pint (of larger) a day can help defend against bowl cancer, then a month later a pint a day increases the risk of stomach cancer, same for some kind of food or other, if you ask me it's all just scare-mongering to increase sales of the industry of the day.
     
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    How many people talk alot on their mobile phones as opposed to looking at them; texting, watching movies, videos, etc?
     
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    How much longer till BT devices in your ear gets labeled as a possible risk of cancer. Even if someone gets brain cancer from cell phone use. How do you prove thats where they got it from? THis is nothing more than news outlets looking for filler material to keep the program going.
     
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    As the population continues to live older and older, of course we'll see more cancers. I'm not saying cell phones are not responsible in any way, I'm saying it might be negligible.

    Things like sunlight and toothpaste cause cancer too. The weirdest one would be CT scans, they are used to diagnose cancer, but they might give you one instead. ;)
     
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    Seems to me that because so much research is agenda driven these days, it can be difficult to accurately determine the risks. The science can be hard to swallow. So what happens if there is indeed a cause?

    We are doomed, I'll tell ya, DOOMED!

    Thank God for Obama Care is all I'll say. Unless there are pre-existing conditions or you lead a reckless lifestyle like calling your Mom once a week on a Cell Phone. Or if you ever used a cell phone, it sucks to be you. Or in my case, Me. The Death Panels will know.

    What about second hand 2110
     
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    What do you see as the driving agenda?
     
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    There are now multiple, peer-reviewed, international studies that all indicate a link between cellphone use and cancer. Please limit the time that your cellphone is right up close to your ear (brain). Speakerphone, texting, web surfing, and all that stuff is much safer.

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    WHO: Cell phone use can increase possible cancer risk - CNN.com


    CNN) -- Radiation from cell phones can possibly cause cancer, according to the World Health Organization. The agency now lists mobile phone use in the same "carcinogenic hazard" category as lead, engine exhaust and chloroform.

    Before its announcement Tuesday, WHO had assured consumers that no adverse health effects had been established.


    A team of 31 scientists from 14 countries, including the United States, made the decision after reviewing peer-reviewed studies on cell phone safety. The team found enough evidence to categorize personal exposure as "possibly carcinogenic to humans."
    What that means is they found some evidence of increase in glioma and acoustic neuroma brain cancer for mobile phone users, but have not been able to draw conclusions for other types of cancers
    "The biggest problem we have is that we know most environmental factors take several decades of exposure before we really see the consequences," said Dr. Keith Black, chairman of neurology at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles.

    The type of radiation coming out of a cell phone is called non-ionizing. It is not like an X-ray, but more like a very low-powered microwave oven.
    "What microwave radiation does in most simplistic terms is similar to what happens to food in microwaves, essentially cooking the brain," Black said. "So in addition to leading to a development of cancer and tumors, there could be a whole host of other effects like cognitive memory function, since the memory temporal lobes are where we hold our cell phones."
    ....snip....

    cell phones could be as big a public health risk as smoking, asbestos and leaded gasoline. The head of a prominent cancer-research institute at the University of Pittsburgh sent a memo to all employees urging them to limit cell phone use because of a possible risk of cancer.

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    WHO: Cell phone use can increase possible cancer risk - CNN.com
     
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    Although it may be true, I cannot, and WILL NOT, put down my cellphone. It is too much a part of my life :(
     
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    nor would I ask you too.... but you can be aware and use common sense. limit your talk time when the phone is up against your ear (brain). don't keep your phone in your front pocket if you want to have kids someday. you know... it's not all or nothing. common sense goes a long way.
     
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    Pretty much anything causes cancer. I am a smoker.
     
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    Beings I carry my phone in my front pocket. Does this mean I will get testicular cancer?:eek:
     
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    I've heard it from the news. Studies shown that prolong and excessive use of cellphones can cause cancer. But, even if that's true, it wound hinder users to avoid usage of cellphones. it had made it part of a person to use it. A day wont be complete without their cellphones. Just like me.
     
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    Remember tests and studies that are done. The test subjects are subjected to way more than the normal amount a person would be subjected to in their life time.

    Just like plutonium and uranium are known cancer causing items. It comes down to exposure. Being exposed to a little bit just for a little time won't give you cancer. Now juggle the rods and your chances are greatly increased.
     
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    Do you want to cite some references or do you just want to keep talking out of your hat?

    The evidence was reviewed critically, and overall evaluated as being limited among users of wireless telephones for glioma and acoustic neuroma, and inadequate to draw conclusions for other types of cancers. The evidence from the occupational and environmental exposures mentioned above was similarly judged inadequate. The Working Group did not quantitate the risk; however, one study of past cell phone use (up to the year 2004), showed a 40% increased risk for gliomas in the highest category of heavy users (reported average: 30 minutes per day over a 10-year period).

    Dr Jonathan Samet (University of Southern California, USA), overall Chairman of the Working Group, indicated that "the evidence, while still accumulating, is strong enough to support a conclusion and the 2B classification. The conclusion means that there could be some risk, and therefore we need to keep a close watch for a link between cell phones and cancer risk."


    "Given the potential consequences for public health of this classification and findings," said IARC Director Christopher Wild, "it is important that additional research be conducted into the long-term, heavy use of mobile phones. Pending the availability of such information, it is important to take pragmatic measures to reduce exposure such as hands-free devices or texting. "


    http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2011/pdfs/pr208_E.pdf
     
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    Let me restate/clarify:

    I was not specifically saying there is an agenda as far as cancer/cell phones are concerned. Sorry I was not clear.

    Because there are countless studies out there and some are taken seriously, and many are likely flawed. If cell phone use was a contributing factor to brain cancer, many might not believe it. And laws might be passed based on guesses and flawed studies.

    Mr. Gore comes to mind as a prime example of agenda driven studies and the like.

    We simply do not know enough to make any laws or determinations about how much our phones contribute to cancer. It is smoke, mirrors, BS, lies, and guessing.

    Bob
     
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    You cite flawed studies but no evidence of them. Then you cite Gore's position (on global warming, I assume) as an example of an "agenda driven" study. Do you have evidence for either, or are they just manifestations of your belief system?

    In any event, nobody is proposing any laws, and if they did you can bet that cell phone makers and service providers would fight hard against it.
     

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