I am trying to get Verizon to give me some discounts to join them since I am currently with ATT and am trying to make them "convice" me to go with Verizon, but I've had no luck with 2 sales rep. One was extremely rude while the other said that all they could do was give me an instant rebate. I've been reading through here that current verizon customers can wave their contract with vzw and say they'll leave verizon or something like that. I've been trying to say i'm not sure which phone I should get, the iPhone 4G or the Dinc. My leverage was basically that and how long the shipping is for the dinc, but I'm having no luck getting a discount. I also mentioned that I've read that other customers were able to get their phones for 50$, now shouldn't I, as a new customer, be given a better discount so that you get me in your contract? No luck though.