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  1. chknhwk

    chknhwk Android Enthusiast
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    Pardon my ignorance but I was wondering if somebody could help me with what some of these terms mean.
    When somebody says .340 ROMs what do they mean?
    Gingerbread themes means that after I load the GB rom I can change themes?
    Does the same thing go for .340 themes? Since I've rooted my phone (sorta, see http://androidforums.com/droid-x-all-things-root/337462-problems-bootstrap-lpp.html for issues I'm currently having, LOL) does this mean I can load different themes now?
    Sorry for the newb questions but this is all new to me. Thanks!
     

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    In order to flash themes and roms you have to be deodexed and rooted. .340 roms means just that. They run on .340, or stock froyo if you will.

    The same goes for Gingerbread themes and roms. All themes and roms are designed to work on there respective platforms. Meaning .340(stock froyo) themes and roms will only run on .340. Same goes for Gingerbread.


    EDIT: It does get a little more involved than this but I figured Id give you the basic concept.
     
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    Check out roOolers site in the root guide sticky. Its got tons of terminology and useful info on themeing, roms, and everything else you'd ever want to know. Once you've got the hang of it, visit the official rom and theme guide where most of the roms and themes can be found in their respective catagories.
     
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    Ok, that makes sense - to a point. I thought the point of flashing your device was so that we could get away from the stock software. If I'm reflashing my device why can't I run whatever version I want? Why do I have to stick with stock .340 versions? The same goes for GB.
     
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    because that is all that is out right now
    there is no ICS(Ice Cream Sandwich) yet, we only have froyo and GB, but our GB isnt official yet, and because of our locked up bootloaders we cannot flash custom kernels, your basically stuck to what the manufacturer wants you to be on.

    there is nothing wrong with Froyo, we have multiple roms, that remove bloatware, and make it run extremely fast

    however Gingerblur is faster than cleaned up froyo, so we are waiting for the official gb ota so that the devs can start to develop for the gb roms

    though you must know you will never get a full vanilla experience with the X, unless moto will unlock the bootloader, and since its moto, i do not see that happening.
     
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    According to the statement released by Moto, they are going to be releasing phones with the unlocked boot loader sometime at the end of the year. That's good news for new phones but not good news for us. I don't see Moto working backwards to unlock the DX boot loader.
     
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    you never know that could be a PR campaign so they will say anything to keep us off their backs until the beginning of the new year, so dont think they will keep their word, not until it happens.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Is there a base rom required to flash from? I.E. I'm running Liberty now but my phone has a mind of it's own, randomly selecting whatever it wants. It's so bad I literally can not have a conversation via sms or google talk and in order to make a phone call it's hit and miss because as soon as I go into contacts it will randomly call people.
    So I'm wondering if I can install the .596 leak on top of Liberty?
     
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    nope. gotta SBF and start over, you won't regret it
     
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    I can't do an SBF, I'm on a MAC and I'm at work. My phone is absolutely useless at this point. Can I load a different rom and overwrite update.zip?
     
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    I believe if you have the TBH app you can download .340 in update.zip format and flash from stock recovery. Then preform a wipe while still in stock recovery and you should be good to go.
     
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    Thank you but what is the TBH app? I'm wracking my brain here but I'm unfamiliar with that one...
     
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    Ok, that will require some more research.
    I think what I need to figure out is the fastest way to reflash this thing because inputting anything via the screen is touch and go. :(
     
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    If your still on .340 and do not want to SBF then MADERSTOCK is the way to go. MADERSTOCK
     
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    if its a software issue, it will be fixed, if hardware, get it replaced.
     
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    if you're on a mac at work and they don't mind too much, as long as it has an intel chipset (not powerpc) you can run bootcamp or such thing and emulate windows environments, then RSD lite will work
     
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    Maderscok does NOT work for this and there have been numerous posts concerning bootlooping after trying to do it, Maderscok doesn't replace the entire system and will not work properly for this upgrade.
     
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    I tried this before. I used Mirror 1 to download, put the file on my sd card, booted bootstrap recovery, loaded zip file from sd card and got an aborted message, file bad. I'm trying a different download now.
     
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    Copy that..

    I was just trying to give him an out since Liberty is freaking his phone out...
     
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    Oh...excellent. :( Guess I won't be trying it.
    I guess I'll try using my work computers to SBF. :mad:
     
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    Do you have a Windows or Mac at work?
     
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    if its a mac, you need to find out if it has an intel chipset, if it does, you can run an emulator to get windows or linux running. Powerpc, although I think its superior, will not work
     
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