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  1. ekyle

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    Next year I'm going to sell my Linux laptop (my only computer), the Xoom, my Transformer, and my D3. After owning several Android powered devices, each with their own unique problems, I am ready for a change. I can't stand how I need to root my phone in order to take screenshots and remove bloatware... So next year I'm going to give Apple a shot. I'll give it a year to see if I like it. If I don't I'll go back to Android, but right now it looks like Apple will provide what I am looking for.

    I just want my devices to work as they should out of the box. I shouldn't have to modify files to get a webcam to have the correct orientation. I shouldn't have to root. I shouldn't have to hit up the forums for every quirky problem each device has. Maybe I'm just growing out of the customization point in my life...

    Am I the only one that feels this way?
     

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    I definitely can't say the same, customization is the number 1 reason Android is my favorite OS. The other problem is even if you do switch to Apple everything isn't going to work the way you want it to out of the box. Your still going to have to jailbreak it in order to get quite a few features you will be missing from Android.

    Unless you don't use widgets, or flash.

    As anyone will tell you, switch to whatever OS you are happy with, or what will work the best for you. Every device has it's own problems, your never going to find a perfect device that has no issues at all. I hope you enjoy whatever you end up switching to, but don't expect the switch to be worry, problem, and hassle free.

    It also depends on which device you choose in the first place. Just because the two issues you have with Android can be easily solved by buying a stock Android device, and getting a device that supports taking screenshots without rooting. There are several devices that do both of these out of the box.

    Edit: Another reason you may be having this problem is because Verizon really needs to work on bringing out some stock android devices, and stop loading them full of bloatware.
     
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    It all depends on what you want. I don't see how you have to root on Android to do anything. I root so I can get system level backups of everything. That's basically the only reason. You can't get that on iOS or any other OS that I know off without that level of access. The screenshot thing I agree is a little ridiculous. I can't believe they don't have that natively by now when every other mobile OS out there does.

    The thing with iOS is Apple defines your experience and you can't change it. Even if you jailbreak, you still can't change that basic experience. Your phone looks just like everyone else's phone really even after it's jailbroken. If you like that experience, you're fine. If you don't, you're screwed. With Android you can change that experience if you want. It's all about what kind of experience you want. If you're happy with the experience iOS offers, then go for it. If you're used to being able to fix things that you don't like about the experience, you may be extremely frustrated.
     
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    I think they each have their own wonders and disappointments. I don't think I could ever go to an iphone after android but I use my ipad without a problem. Just depends on what you want.

    If you think Apple is the way to go for you - then take that leap and see. Worst case scenario you have a phone you dislike as much as the one before. Best case - you decide you love it. My guess is that you'll fall somewhere in the middle of loving/hating it. Just my opinion though
     
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    I'm expecting some shortcomings with the iPhone/Apple as a whole scenario. I do use widgets but I can live without them. Flash, I've never liked it. The only thing I'd use Flash for is YouTube but there are apps for that (on both platforms). My biggest thing is battery and bloatware.

    I agree if VZW actually sold a Nexus and didn't load it up with crap I'd probably be completely happy with it as long as the device didnt:
    • randomly restart
    • have abysmal battery life
    • drop signal
    • lose 3G

    Those are just a few of the problems I've experienced with Moto and HTC devices. Moto being my favorite.

    My friends joke that there is no device for me. They're right. There is nothing out there offering everything I want my gadgets to do, but I'm hoping to come close. Only way to do that I suppose is to try everything. Except Windows... I know that I don't like Windows lol

    The only kicker is going to be new apps that will need to be bought, and fewer free versions of said apps.
     
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    I don't blame you. Android sux and will never make it big.

    :D

    Just kidding. Have fun getting it all sorted, it's good to spend a lot of time with devices just to get to know them (I do a half-hour in the store prior to purchase, you're doing a year after purchase, so we differ immensely).

    ;)
     
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    I've never understood the bloatware thing. In my tests I've found that it doesn't impact the performance of the phone significantly at all.
     
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    Plus you can hide the bloatware apps pretty easily.

    But I liken bloatware to things like junk mail and telemarketing calls; annoyance, having to pay attention to something that is not significant to me, etc.

    Mixed feelings, but I'd sure rather not have it at all.
     
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    That's the plan. I've used the devices before and like them, but until recently never gave it much thought. I figure a year is a good amount of time for me to experience just about everything I would do with any of the devices (MBP, iPad, and iPhone(.

    After I removed a bunch of bloat and MotoBlur features from my D3 and Dx I noticed an increase in performance and battery life. Especially in the D3 when I replaced Home.apk with GoLauncher.

    That and I take a lot of screenshots. Not like 50 a day or anything, but enough to the point where I would like a simple way to do it without voiding my warranty haha
     
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    Sure, I'd rather not have them. No arguments there. But on my list of annoyances in life, they're so far down the list that I just don't care.
     
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    I'm confused. It takes 10 minutes to root your phone and it is permanently rooted for the entire time you own it unless you have to flash it back for warranty repair. After that you have 100% access to anything you want to do to your phone.

    So it seems like you just need something fresh...
     
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    I think his point is he shouldn't have to void his warranty just to take screenshots. I can't really argue with that.
     
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    I guess not. I was kind of pissed that I couldn't take a screenshot when I first purchased my Incredible in April of 2010 but it wasn't long after I was taught how to root my phone and my life has been rainbows and butterflies ever since. :)
     
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    I root and jailbreak because that is what all the cool, hip, and groovy cats do. And I need to be cool, too. At least once before I pass on to whatever awaits me. Probably hell, but you all know that. I fear that when I die, the only music will be .99 cent songs of Justin Bieber covering the Rolling Stones in falsetto and all I have is a .98 cent iTunes gift card.
     
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    Dead people don't rock.

    Will the 98 cents to the charity of your choice.
     
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    Mama Cass, Elvis, Duane Allman, Bonham, Brian Jones, and J.B. Arban still rock, to this very day, so there. Smiley. Actually, anything on my iPad rocks. Even the Backstreet Boys and yes, I have them on my music thingy. More formulaic than real rock; I mean they don't get down, and real rockers likely want to beat them up, but they are funky and upbeat and thank God they stopped.

    Did you know that piano rolls rock? Plenty of dead lending their talent to rolls and the greatest instrument ever created, the Steam Calliope.

    To this day those above not only rock, they rule. And they rock. In heaven they rock, and if in hell, they rock and roll and say, "ouch, that fire burns, put it out." But what a band that would be. You are simply incorrect, Frisco. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

    And no, in hell, the 98 cents will go to Satan's horn polishing fund. If you do not know who Arban is, you likely do not rock, so there.

    Smiley.
     
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    I hope your purchases satisfy you. But apple locks your experience down completely. Sure, you should be able to take screenshots w/o root. And you'll only have one option for app installs (assuming you don't jailbreak your iphone, which seems to be the point you're making, device without voiding warranty), which to some people isn't quite right.

    I rooted for: Hotspot, removed bloat, custom roms, full backups, and because now I'm 8% cooler. :)

    By the way, why are you getting rid of your linux comp?
     
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    I had an iPhone 3Gs for a year before I moved to Android. And if you think it's a pain having to root your Android phone to get it to work like you want it to, then you aren't going to like iOS. I had my 3Gs jailbroken, and even with that, I've been able to do more to my unrooted Droid X than I was able to do with my jailbroken iPhone. Jailbreaking lets you do a lot more than Apple wants you to be able to do, but it's not always easy to get it to do what you want, and there are some things that it still can't do. I like Android much better than iOS, and I've used each for a year.
     
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    I know that they're more restrictive, but then I don't need to worry about installing an app and having it suck down my battery. Most iPhone users I know show me that their phones do what they need them to do. I need the web, email, and my apps. With the X and the TB I rooted them to get different ROMs because the stock ROMs just plain didn't function well. A person shouldn't have to do that with their product. The D3 is by far the best Android phone I've owned so far.
     
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    When you come back to Android after your test run with iOS, we will welcome you with open arms :p

    I see that you're slowly transitioning away from Android as you've given them to your Fianc
     
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    Learn to install Cyanogenmod. The latest builds support screenshots. MIUI also has that built in.
     
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    I simply find the assumption that I want the bloatware offensive. If others want it, fine with me. So I should be able to remove it without having to root the phone. (I did root)

    Plus you can't just hide some apps and ignore them. Quite a few SGS4G owners were having problems with Doubletwist connecting even if they had never signed up. These people were not heavy data users, and would find that a lot of their data allowance was used by some of these apps which is not fair.
     
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    giving up one set of issues... to get a new/different set (with more set limitations by them).

    hope you can live with the new ones. good luck
     

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