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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by colrey, May 1, 2010.

  1. colrey

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    Hi guys,
    Just thought I would post this thread on any 2.2 news, I will start,does anyone think we will get 2.2 without HTC needing to do anything, sence UI, won't change ,it will be apps to SD, 720 HD recording, and DNLA,none of this will be anything to do with sence UI ,so as this update Will be over the air, happy days????
     

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    stickied.

    I'm certain we are getting apps2sd!
     
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    Hi lekky, do u think we will get ota update same time as everyone else, or will we have to wait an eternity like my previous Hero
     
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    I found bug in Android 2.1 which needs to be fixed in 2.2 version

    Bug is in VPN PPTP android client which is not compiled with MMPE encryption enabled , and because of that it is impossible for HTC Desire and other phones using android 2.x to connect to pptp server because this is not enabled in android pptpd. There is solution for this requiring that you root your phone first than replace original pptpd and ip-up-vpn files with new compiled, but this is really not solution because we need that all this works for clients "out of box"

     
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    cveks, email HTC support so they are aware of your problem.

    colrey i think it will be quite quick, I don't think the internals will be such a big change as the 1.5 to 2.1 is. Also the Desire will be able to handle 2.2 easily, again different than the Hero case.

    But then again, who knows!
     
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    Assuming they are using a sensible version numbering scheme, 1.x -> 2.x is a major change, hence the large delays from HTC (and others). However 2.1 to 2.2 is a minor change, so should be easy to handle. I'm excited about the JIT compiler in 2.2, and hoping for a few bug fixes that have been irritating me, so fingers crossed HTC are on the ball and we get 2.2 quickly.
     
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    Apps2sd without having to root your phone, about time :) I was thinking about rooting but I like the sense experience a lot
     
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    You still have sense after rooting. In fact there is no noticeable different pre-root to after root. Except of course you can install as many apps as you like.
     
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    I didn't realise you still kept sense :eek:. Well I will wait to see if it does come on 2.2 if not and it is still delayed I will look into rooting it:)
     
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    Think you'll find it may be a unification of standards. They are talking about Android skeleton 2.2 for everyone and then you can download features depending on your hardware.

    Froyo (2.5) will be a major release on the next google phone, they are some rumours as to who the manufacturer of the next google phone will be but it's under strict NDA at the minute.
     
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    The delays in OS updates for certain devices has been because of the manufacturers and carriers not any big differences in the OS. If it was because of problems porting the updates then rooted phones wouldn't be able to install the updated OS either. Carriers are baaaaddd lol
     
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    While I tend to agree with you, the carriers play spread-betting (i.e. they support the largest number of handsets to maintain the largest number of customers and attract the largest number of new ones), thus it is not always in their interests to update all handsets.
    Those of us that get over-excited about the latest trick are usually willing to go for it, and sign a new contract. (I have to admit to signing up for the Desire 2 months before my existing contract ends could not help myself!) Those who are only vaguely interested in the tech, and there are a great many, will stay with what they have (maybe complaining, but still quite happy with what they have).
    And, the vast majority give somewhere less than 2 craps about this kind of thing, and therefore do not care about updates/rooting or what the phone can do other than what they use it for most (texts/pics/whatever). Moreover, the vast majority of handsets are versatile enough to do most things (i.e. profiles, scenes, have calculators or what have you). Factor in the fact that many people cannot afford these high-end devices, or are able to take out a contract, and you are left with the most ridiculous market that specialises in loss-leaders (majority of phones), based upon the principle of obsolescence, to encourage contract signing.
    This leaves us with the question: in whose interest is the updating of older handsets?
    The carriers? No, for reasons above.
    The manufacturers? No, as they wish to continue to sell new models and more of them than old models (year on year growth, etc)
    The OS designers? No, it is easier to redesign OS for the highest spec (and the OS manufacturers are also selling phones)
    The users (us)? Well, only partially. As above, most people do not actually care. However, this is a strong argument for opensource, as it allows those who wish to do. That the 'carriers are baaaad' (and I do not doubt it) opens the space for the 'devs of goood'!
    Anyways, apologies, I had to respond... :eek:more on topic:
    I have been setting myself up to root my phone, but am thinking that I do not need apps2sd at the moment. I think I am going to wait and see what happens over the next few months, and if any real changes appear, but then again... can I stop myself from the thrill of rooting?:thinking:
     
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    Froyo is 2.2, whatever they call 2.5 will obviously start with a 'G'.
     
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    Gingerbread man, for 2.5
     
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    I have an unlocked, unbranded Desire.. hopefully 2.2 will be available straight away :D

    What happens with Android updates though, do you install the OS over the existing OS and keep Sense, all your settings, etc? Or do you have to wipe everything?
     
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    You shouldn't have to do anything other than except the update, the phone does it for you :)
     
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    Great stuff :D
     
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    You should already have had an update to your firmware placing you on 2.1 update 1 and it should hopefully be the same process :)
     
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    I only got my Desire on the 23rd April and it had 2.1 update 1 on it already, sounds easy though thanks :)
     
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    anything official from either HTC or Google about the update yet?
     
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    Your phone will check for updates on its own :)
     
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    I know that mate, I'm not that much of a noob :D
    but what I'm wondering about is why the hype is starting to build up? have HTC or Google announced anything about an update?
     
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    I might be wrong, but I am sure I saw on either phandroid or android central that it will be in the next couple of months :)
     
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    Because of the google developer event this month, the fact that Adobe said Flash 10.1 will be available from June, and google telling us Flash will be available on devices shipped with Froyo

    Google I/O 2010
     
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    Engadget today published confirmation from Google re apps2sd

    Android support for memory card app storage is finally 'coming soon' -- Engadget


    But with regards a date, all they could get was 'coming soon'.

    My money is on a release in June, to coincide with Adobe releasing Flash 10.1. But I'd say we'll see the official announcement and full feature-set on the 19th of this month.

    But obviously I'd prefer a full launch this month so I hope I'm wrong!
     
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