Alright, self-imposed one hour cool down period complete. It is all still rumor, with the exception of Verizon press release stating before the end of the year. Will Verizon lie to us, and feed us a line about technical issues preventing them from keeping their promise? That is the route they will HAVE to take to delay it to first quarter. I just can't see it. The GSM version will have been released for a month and a half by that point, and probably running great. Furthermore it will have been announced by Verizon for almost 2 1/2 months. And finally, Google and Samsung own 2/3rds of Verizon's phone line-up (Samsung and Motorola). They do have liasons in VZW HQ. They have their own testers, and will know if VZW is full of it or not. Too much working against Verizon here for them to even consider pulling this off, even if their financial folks (who notoriously don't know anything else about the business based on my experience) want them to.