Oh I know. I just don't believe any rumors now. Any discussion of a date I just try to brush off. I do think just because of my own logic that it will be released this week. However, I thought the same in early November. I didn't put much faith it it being released late November or the 9th. I really hoped it would, but didn't believe it. With the phone being IN the stores, I know, I personally held the very one Radio Shack is going to sell me...they only got one in...I just don't see a reason they would allow a whole bunch of phones to sit in the stock room taking up space and not sell them the week before Christmas. I don't buy this not releasing till January either because releasing right before Christmas is close enough to the new year that people will flock to the stores once the buzz gets out beyond our little niche and they'll see good sales through January on this phone anyway.