You get the stock Android apps (which are included on Sense anyways) plus Sense apps. Nothing is taken out other than the aesthetics of Sense. I posted this earlier, and still stand by it: I don't think we will see anything Incredible-related there. HTC possibly may be showing the Legend/Desire/HDmini, however I feel strongly that the Incredible release will be a Verizon announcement. (The Incredible is a VZW exclusive, similar to the Droid - so I expect it to be handled in the same fashion) Umm.. what? That is completely WAYYY off topic, and has NOTHING to do with the Incredible. This thread is not for embracing all kinds of phones. At this point, I'd say most of us are interested in the Incredible - with maybe a few on the fence between the N1/Incredible; otherwise, they would not be in the Official INCREDIBLE thread.