OFFICIAL: LG G3 Android 5.0 Lollipop OTA imminent

rushmore

Extreme Android User
Hey guys, let us know if card writes now work with non stock apps :)

Lollipop was supposed to allow this again, but will believe when confirmed with the G3 release.
 

nickdalzell

Extreme Android User
I've never had issues either. I think some are having buggy apps but they panic and say 'ZOMG Kitkat killed SD cards!'

All three apps I use all the time to move things over to an SD work fine. ES File Explorer, Root Explorer and any stock file browser. Even Amazon Music and Google apps have no trouble with SD cards.
 

rushmore

Extreme Android User
Third party apps do not write to the card. If you have no issue, ignorance is bliss. Just like in The Matrix.
 

renegad3

Well-Known Member
Third party apps do not write to the card. If you have no issue, ignorance is bliss. Just like in The Matrix.

Sorry, but that is not correct. Third party apps can certainly write to the card, as well as read.

They are just no longer allowed to read/write to places that the app itself did not create.

If your third party app isnt working, it is because the dev did not update it to properly work.
 

andruoid

Android Expert
Great news. Timing is perfect as 2 days before I bought the G3 I flashed 5.0 on my Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 is now my son's first phone :)
 

nickdalzell

Extreme Android User
ES File Explorer is a third party app right? i have no problems writing to any folder that it shows. i obviously cannot write to system folders without root, though. i can still browse and copy files to and from any folder on my SD Card though.
 

jhonb

Android Enthusiast
This in my first non unlocked Nexus phone. I am used to getting updates the week they come out. I have an ATT G3. When Can I expect to get the lollypop update?
Since ATT is still using 4.4.2 I guess I have a while?
 

SpyderBite

Well-Known Member
This in my first non unlocked Nexus phone. I am used to getting updates the week they come out. I have an ATT G3. When Can I expect to get the lollypop update?
Since ATT is still using 4.4.2 I guess I have a while?

Just like the rest of us.. most likely spring 2015 for US carriers. :p
 

nickdalzell

Extreme Android User
Yeah the international models get all the love while America gets the shaft. It happens with custom ROMs too. The Galaxy S3 had far more custom ROMs for the international model but a mere handful for the SGH-I535. I don't get it. Is there better hardware in the international model or something?
 

Rxpert83

Dr. Feelgood
Yeah the international models get all the love while America gets the shaft. It happens with custom ROMs too. The Galaxy S3 had far more custom ROMs for the international model but a mere handful for the SGH-I535. I don't get it. Is there better hardware in the international model or something?

Its not necessarily better hardware, its more users and ease of root/source.

The SGH I535 is specific to Verizon, while the rest of the world uses the international version. More users, more developers, more development
 

mikedt

你好
The rest of the world still has carriers though right? Not like Verizon is that much different than say China Mobile

Verizon has phones specially made and customized for them, like no other carrier does "Droid". FWIW China Mobile has phones specially made and customized for them as well, including the iPhone, because no other carrier in the world uses TD-SCDMA. And any firmware updates for certain specific "CMCC" phones, do come via China Mobile. Don't worry the China only TD-SCDMA version of the G3 is probably shafted for updates as well, may get it quicker I dunno, China Mobile are the world's largest carrier with most subscribers and there's a lot of developers in this country.
 
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meyerweb

Android Enthusiast
US carriers get the ROM image about the same time as the international edition rollout. But then they need to modify it to include their customized bloatware, and do their internal testing before releasing it to customers. Don't blame LG (or Samsung, or HTC....) for rolling out updates to the US slowly, blame the carriers. In no other part of the world do the carriers have as much control over the phones as they do in the U.S.

As for why Poland, the answers are pretty easy to find. LG (and Samsung) have large software development operations in Poland. Highly educated, cheap labor. So the developers working on customizing 5.0 are probably there already. Poland isn't too big a market, so if the initial release has serious bugs the impact won't be nearly as great as if it happened in the U.S. or Europe more broadly. And LG has referenced carrier relationships. Polish carriers are probably more willing to go along with whatever LG wants than larger carriers in other countries. Certainly than the U.S.
 

nickdalzell

Extreme Android User
Here's another mystery. Why isn't the iPhone a victim of VZW or any other bloatware? Perhaps Google could make a stand against it like Apple did?
 

Rxpert83

Dr. Feelgood
Here's another mystery. Why isn't the iPhone a victim of VZW or any other bloatware? Perhaps Google could make a stand against it like Apple did?
Apple has the clout to say "you won't touch this". They make the phone, they make the software, the product is in high demand. If a carrier doesn't have the iPhone that really hurts the carrier.

If Verizon doesn't stock the G3, that hurts LG, not necessarily Verizon.

Google isn't involved as its between the manufacturer (lg) and the carrier. They did what they could with 5.0. Bloat is now uninstallable, but its up to the carrier/manufacturer to implement
 
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Please don't talk about the US getting shafted we in Europe get shafted by US companies all the time for example Apple charges us a lot more than it does you and that goes the same for many other US brands. Updates are often launched first in a smaller European market to iron out bugs, its often Poland so you could say its better not to be there since by the time its gets to the rest of us the bugs should have been sorted. Given the roll out time table we in the UK would have had ours by now but we have not so I guess there are issues that have been discovered which still need to be sorted. So all being well by the time our American cousins get theirs early next year it will be perfect (well we can all dream). On another note my Nexus 7 as had its update and I am not impressed to say its lagging would be an understatement.
 

mikedt

你好
Please don't talk about the US getting shafted we in Europe get shafted by US companies all the time for example Apple charges us a lot more than it does you and that goes the same for many other US brands. Updates are often launched first in a smaller European market to iron out bugs, its often Poland so you could say its better not to be there since by the time its gets to the rest of us the bugs should have been sorted. Given the roll out time table we in the UK would have had ours by now but we have not so I guess there are issues that have been discovered which still need to be sorted. So all being well by the time our American cousins get theirs early next year it will be perfect (well we can all dream). On another note my Nexus 7 as had its update and I am not impressed to say its lagging would be an understatement.

Sometimes the price difference is not as much as you might think actually. European sales prices includes sales tax, 20% VAT in the UK, quoted prices for products in the US do not include sales tax, it's always added on at checkout. Also many people in the US and EU are not paying full retail anyway, like $700 or €600 or whatever for them, they usually get them subsidised by carriers. Same with flagship Samsungs, LGs, HTCs, etc.

Think it's only really Apple and Motorola that are the two US firms that are doing phones in the EU anyway, everything else is either Chinese, Korean or Japanese. LOL

UK carriers often have their special customised and modified versions of phones as well, such as Vodafone and Three. And any updates have to be approved and come via those carriers, same in the US.
 
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andruoid

Android Expert
While I really like 5.0 on my Nexus 7 I can be patient and still enjoy 4.4.2. I'd rather have them get the bugs out first, especially on a phone.

About bloatware, doesn't 5.0 now have the option to remove it?
 
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