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Olbermann, O'Reilly and the death of real news

Discussion in 'Politics and Current Affairs' started by batgeek, Nov 18, 2010.

  1. batgeek

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    Ted Koppel: Olbermann, O'Reilly and the death of real news

    thank you very much Ted.
     

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  2. Crude

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    good read, nice find.
     
  3. ElasticNinja

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    I've said before, I'll say it again:
    America needs a state broadcaster
     
  4. batgeek

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    oh! our own Tokyo Rose! i'm all for it!
     
  5. hood420

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    By state broadcaster you mean government-owned media, right?

    I don't think that's a good idea at all. Not here. We do have PBS, a public, non profit channel with local stations all over the US. I've often wished they would do the nightly news, if you can trust anyone in the American media it would be PBS.
     
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  6. batgeek

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    they would likely just get their news from NPR. in other words, AP.

    another problem. PBS, as a non-profit entity, relies on donations to keep their programming going. it wouldn't be that hard for someone of some political persuasion that was supplying PBS with "donations" to heavy hand them into skewing their "news" in favor of said political persuasion. to complicate it even more, each PBS station is locally funded via donation.

    all it would end up being are a bunch of local MSNBCs and Fox News' depending on who has the money in that PBS station's locality.
     
  7. ElasticNinja

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    Yes
    Payed for and owned by the state.

    Been discussed before, it'd be way less biased than most of your current media (the classic example being Fox, and MSNBC seems biased to the left too me (although not to the hideous extremes Fox go's to skew everything to the right)
     
  8. batgeek

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    which will skew depending on who holds office. cool. i like it!
     
  9. ElasticNinja

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    Not in Europe/Canada/rest of developed democratic world
     
  10. batgeek

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    that isn't the USA. things work different here.
     
  11. ElasticNinja

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    And yet you still think that America is the greatest country in the world? :rolleyes:
     
  12. batgeek

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    i've never stated that. there is no "best" country in the world.
     
  13. Drhyde

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    O'Reilly and Olbermann are commentators (and depending on how you view their shows, entertainers) and not newscasters. If you want real news, watch your local news station or read your local paper, preferably an unbiased one. Otherwise, the national aspect of American news is a disaster full of short-sighted, bloated, blowhards who like to throw opinion around like its fact.
     
  14. batgeek

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    close to impossible.

    that's what Mr. Koppel stated if you didn't read the piece.
     
  15. ElasticNinja

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    I meant "you" in the pluralar ;)
     
  16. TheBeardedMann

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    I believe America is the best country.



    I also believe Levi's are the best pants, Gentleman Jack is the best whiskey, Coke is the best soda and Staffords are the best white shirts.
     
  17. batgeek

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    Dickies, Jack Daniels black label, RC cola, and i'll agree with Staffords. :)
     
  18. ElasticNinja

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  19. Bob Maxey

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    Lots of Bests. Perhaps this might make a great thread? Who makes the best whatevers and soforths?

    Bob
     
  20. mike114

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    Is there anything you don't think the federal gov't should have a role in? Our Constitution doesn't authorize a state run media outlet, instead the founders believed that a free media would be the best media.
     
  21. copestag

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    youre talking to a brick wall with a lot of them on here...... they would argue that the constitituion explicitly calls for state run media....... after all it clearly states the govt must promote the general welfare and state run media is the only way to do that......... they use that general welfare excuse to mean whatever they want
     
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    I don't really buy the premise of the article. With the Internet now I can access newspapers/news sites with widely varied points of view from around the country or world within minutes. What Koppel is lamenting is not the death of real news but the death of a few national networks and the local newspaper editor being able to act as gatekeepers to what news we receive.
     
  23. ElasticNinja

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    I know your beloved founding fathers were very contented with the private news tv they had back then
     
  24. mike114

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    You really despise freedom and liberty.
     
  25. ElasticNinja

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    Huh?
    Facts pless
    My country has a state broadcaster that riddles the government E V E R Y B L O O D Y M I N U T E

    UK is the same

    Private media is probably more dangerous in developed countries as anyone can buy a few hundred thousand shares and have influence
    Look at Italy!
    Maybe Murdoch plans to do the same...
     

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