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  1. aviranx

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    Nowdays im trying to root my lg l70, and it isnt simple as it sounds. i have a little backgroung in root actions. but yet its hard since my smartphone isnt popular. during my attemps to root i had many prbleems(cant mount sd, win 7 doesnt recognize ext2 etc.). and i havent finished yet.

    In gennerally all android subjects arent that easy. you always have to find other way\app\moudle\exposed\moded to do what you wanted. My first need of rooting was for improving my OS(getting externalSD permission). Google adds those things we want to thier OS but until we will have basic needs(such as youtube in backgroung insted of exposed or modded apk) i think android version will be 10.

    Dont get me wrong i love android very much. those many option are good. but sometimes its just annoying to look for everything. in those time you start to wonder how iOS would be like in ways of simplicity..

    My real point, is that during those searches for methods and stuff we use....... google search - the product from the company that brought us the need to look for methods in the first place.

    So, like your phone sometimes stuck in bootloop - so is google.
     

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  2. mikedt

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    Does that include jailbreaking iOS? I presume that would be your intention. Like you're trying to root your LG L70.

    Although quite frankly the L70 is a rather uninteresting budget device IMO, and so might get too much interest from the rooting, dev. and customization community, unlike say a top-of-the-range Samsung or HTC.

    This is a $100 phone, an iPhone is around $600-700 bucks.
     
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    You don't have to use Google search: other search engines are available ;)

    iOS is "simple" if you do things their way. If you want to do something other than what they think you want to do it can be much harder than Android.

    I have no experience with LGs, but you may well have identified the problem with your first statement: the phone is not popular, so there isn't the support and resources you get for rooting some other phones. Some devices and manufacturers are also more root-friendly than others: a Nexus is trivial to root, as are most HTCs (HTC provide the tools to unlock the bootloader), but I don't know about LG. As to the "looping" element, remember that Google just provide the base OS, which the manufacturers then adapt to their tastes and needs. So the challenges you face in rooting are at least as much LG as Google in that respect.
     
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    can you agree with me that the need to improve your phone happen in all android manufacturs?
     
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    Sometimes with Google Translate the meaning or intention of a message is not always clear.

    Oh well back to Shenzhen University, QQ English practice groups
     
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    From experience I can say that maybe 95% of Android users do nothing to "improve" their phones other than changing the default theme to one of the others. ;)
     
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    I'll agree with you. For the savvy users that come to androidforums, many want to improve/customize the operation of their phones, regardless of which brand/model. There's a whole lot you can do without root. And then a whole lot more with root (some would point out risks of rooted phone... possible to bork device and less secure device). The point mikedt was making was that your particular phone would be more difficult to root then a more well-known / well-used phone because not as many developers (or maybe, in the case of root I should say "hackers") are investing time on it.

    I sense your overall view is that Android phones are tougher to customize than they should be. It's an opinion, and opinions are not wrong, they just vary among people. I have at times felt intense frustration at my inability to get a particular thing done that seems like it should be much simpler. But overall that it is more than balanced by the satisfaction of what I can do with my android phone. I think the diversity/choices available on i-phone are less and accordingly it may be less complicated to do those things it can do. There are pro's con's for both platforms and honestly I don't think you can go wrong with either one.

    You may have recently come from iphone. It seems a common phenomenon that when people switch phones either direction they are initially disappointed that they can't do exactly what they used to do exactly how they used to do it. Over time they tend to figure out the new things to do that they couldn't do before and new ways to do the things they used to do before.

    btw I rooted a tracfone LG Optimus Fuel easily with towelroot. If it works (sometimes requires you to have the numeric codes), it's easy. I realize not everyone is so lucky.
     
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    I feel the need to root less and less these days. For the most part if you do the research you can find a device that fits all your needs and these days storage and battery life are become almost a non issue.
     
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    me too, I have often thought of Rooting a phone to get a few features that "I just really really NEED!!!"

    but, as time has slipped by the bridge, I am coming to realize, that it was just a fit of fancy, I don't need any of that stuff, and I really don't want, and can't afford to Brick my phone....

    for one that is on the Retirement Plan, money is a commodity that best be preserved, not wasted.
     
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    I still have to get rid of 90% of the stuff and install my own.
     
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    I've gone Moto lol so that cut out my bloat[emoji106]
     
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    Color OS on the Oppo was very basic. Far cleaner than the Moto.

    I went to Moto as TMO is messing with frequencies and still disabled of all of Moto's stuff and most of Google's crap, too. I don't need maps, connect, near to me, cloud, docs - the only Google thing I need is Play Store. I buy most of my stuff.

    Most of the phone is reference. None of that comes with the phone. Ibird Pro, State Flowers, Mushrooms and almost any kind of astronomy app you want. I think I have almost all of them, and all are paid apps.

    I do have At Bat on the Oppo right now (it's now the backup), the old tablet won't run it since the last update.
     

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