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Discussion in 'Rogers' started by GreatBigDog, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. GreatBigDog

    GreatBigDog Android Enthusiast
    Thread Starter

    I was under the impression that the reason that we didn't have access to paid market apps in Canada was because Google Checkout wasn't available. Well on a whim today, I decided to check out Google Checkout (pardon the pun) for myself. I was surprised to find that I had no problem setting up an account with a Canadian address. It actually has TOS for Canada in English and French.

    Now this begs the question, what else could be holding up the paid apps in the Canadian market. Anybody have any ideas????


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  2. Andy2010

    Andy2010 Well-Known Member

    Like what gnugu said, a little push from the cellphone provider may change something. I don't think bilingual is a problem since France is on the list. One possibility like what i read on other forum is how the transaction is going to be handled.
  3. AndroidEd

    AndroidEd Well-Known Member

    I too have a google checkout account. Why not use the system on PayPal for example. I don't know what to do, but all I want is the ability to access all applications.
  4. mjschmidt

    mjschmidt Android Expert

    As far as this battle goes, we may not have much luck. It's one thing to take on Rogers over Android 1.6, but another completely to take on Google over access to paid apps in Canada.
  5. Klenya

    Klenya Member

    Somehow I'm more optimistic about Android Market rather update to 1.6
  6. chrisyak

    chrisyak Member

    this would be another good battle to start once we get them to address the 1.6-2.0 updates problem......

    we need to start our own allinace on behalf of the customers for the rogers android phones.....this google market stuff could be another huge battle considering bell, telus and rogers all have these same problems.
  7. loconet

    loconet Member

  8. bgoody

    bgoody Well-Known Member

    France is a unilingual country like Quebec is a unilingual province. Canada is a bilingual country so we have to have everything in French AND English even though everything in Quebec is only in French.
  9. loconet

    loconet Member

    I highly doubt the issue is technical in nature. To me, this smells like another bureaucratic/legal/business related problem.
  10. Deleted User

    Deleted User Guest

    In the end Rogers probably wants a share of the revenue from Google. Knowing Rogers, I would not be surprised if this were the case.
  11. yycken

    yycken Well-Known Member

    Does anyone know if apple shares revenue with the carrier when aps are purchased through their store? As far as I know Rogers hasn't restricted what aps can be purchased for the iphones on their network.
  12. zortoflaven

    zortoflaven Member

    I think its only split between Apple and the developer (30/70 I think). It doesn't make sense to me for the carrier to get a cut of app sales. The only hand they have in anything is that their network is used to download the apps, but I pay for that use monthly.
  13. yycken

    yycken Well-Known Member

    Agreed. If anything the app is going to drive additional network use which presumably means increased monthly billing.
  14. BetjeLenny

    BetjeLenny Lurker

    I went to download an app on my g1 but this warning stuff popped up and I had no idea what it was all about. Is it safe to install these apps?
  15. opus904

    opus904 Newbie

    I also am waiting on several fronts before i upgrade my phone to a android device:

    1. The release of the Sony X10 (Q2 I think)
    2. The Magic Updates to 2.1 (Mid year?)
    3. Paid apps in Canada (?)
    4. A Better Android Phone by Rogers. One that doesn't cost a lot and has 2.1 on it (HA)
  16. Akkuzo

    Akkuzo Well-Known Member

    I still believe that it is because of google checkout issues in canada. If you look, although you can sign up as a consumer, you cannot set up a canadian account as a merchant. You need a merchant account to sell apps on the market and my assumption is that the CRTC isn't going to allow the introduction of a paid media market unless Canadians are allowed to participate on the selling end as well as the purchasing end.
  17. chrisyak

    chrisyak Member

    This is crazy that we don't have this hear yet.....i think it uis time to get some awareness to this issue.....
  18. Akkuzo

    Akkuzo Well-Known Member


    Sorry it interrupt your little war in the other threads (just kidding). You've said in other threads that you heard rumors that paid apps were coming with the milestone (feb 18th as of the latest rumors/maybe official). Do you remember where you heard these rumors or have you or anyone else heard anything else?
  19. mjschmidt

    mjschmidt Android Expert

    No, so I can't really say for sure. I have also read in a number of places people suggesting that it is because we don't have any actual google-branded phones in Canada yet, and that might be the reason.

    If I happen to see anything concrete, I will certainly post it.

    As for flame wars, I don't mind them. I have no delusions about being able to change the minds of others, and name-calling doesn't bother me because I don't care, and it does not diminish my argument to be called a name. ;-) So, I ignore the trolls unless I need to correct something that is misleading. :)
  20. Akkuzo

    Akkuzo Well-Known Member

    That's interesting...

    I looked around and all of the countries with paid apps do seem to have Google branded phones. Ireland only has the HTC Hero (not google) and doesn't have paid apps. In Australia, Vodophone (googel branded devices) customers have access to paid apps and Opus (no google branded doevices) customers don't have access to paid apps.
  21. XBrav

    XBrav Well-Known Member


    I just sent an e-mail to Google as follows:

    Hopefully I will receive a reply.
  22. davidelewis

    davidelewis Newbie

    I've visited 100% francophone communities in both northern Ontario and New Brunswick ... in fact almost 25% of Canadians cite French as their mother tongue: Canada's francophone population: Canadian Geographic Magazine
  23. bgoody

    bgoody Well-Known Member

  24. opus904

    opus904 Newbie

    With the release of the milestone by Telus does this mean more apps for canadian android users? The phone companies seem to be pushing the app stores, but if you still can't get the selection of apps you want the question becomes why bother buying a phone that has only limited access to apps?

    Does anyone remember if apple had the same problem when they released the iphone here in canada? Did they have to wait months or years before they had a good selection of apps to choose from?

    Maybe its a kind of "natural" selection for "us" that live in the great white north called Canada, that we have to wait awhile for 3 party technology to become available to us.
  25. GreatBigDog

    GreatBigDog Android Enthusiast
    Thread Starter

    Or it could just be since we don't have any "Open Handset Alliance" members in Canada and none of the carriers here offer "Google Experience" phones that Google is taking their sweet time to get to us.

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