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  1. rootabaga

    rootabaga Android Enthusiast
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    Or maybe it’s just like Ernie said, “I’ll believe anything if there’s a steady paycheck.”


  2. sn514737

    sn514737 Lurker

    Resolver o problema
  3. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    Of course, people have always been gulliable, if you bluff to them so much, people might think out of contact.
  4. Hadron

    Hadron Smoke me a kipper...
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    It's funny if you look at the assumptions behind this though.

    The proposal is that there are extraterrestrial intelligences, capable of crossing interstellar space (which means either physics we know nothing of or taking centuries, millenia or more), and who on arriving at the Earth spend the time needed to understand the biochemical basis of a biosphere that is completely alien to them in sufficient detail that they can engineer the organisms they find there. And what justifies this immense effort, beyond anything we could dream of doing even if we devoted the entire resources of our planet to achieving this? Apparently the collection of a quantity of a metal with no noteworthy properties except a resistance to oxidation and good electrical conductivity.

    It's the mismatch between the capabilities required and the extremely mundane objective, and the idea that entities with these capabilities would for some reason regard gold in the same way that a stereotypical miser or bank robber does, that has me shaking my head. Not to mention the fact that any race so capable could doubtless obtain all of the gold it wanted far more simply.

    I showed this proposal to my friend William of Occam. That slight vibration you can feel is him spinning in his grave a little faster...
  5. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    If we are all intelligent, then why we squander ammunition against our own kids?
  6. Hadron

    Hadron Smoke me a kipper...
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    Amazing as it might seem, that's small change on the scale of human stupidity when you compare it to the damage we do to the climate and ecosystem, or even the adherence to political and economic models where an ever larger fraction of resources go to an ever smaller fraction of the population.

    Trust me, I never said that humans were intelligent.
  7. Davdi

    Davdi Android Expert

    What would Erich Von Daniken have to say?
  8. puppykickr

    puppykickr Android Expert

    If any of it was real, then there must be a use for gold that we have not discovered yet.
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  9. dontpanicbobby

    dontpanicbobby 100% That Guy
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    Our exterterrestrial robotic overlords will be made of gold like Gort from the documentary "The Day the Earth Stood Still" (1951).
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  10. Dannydet

    Dannydet Extreme Android User

    So the human race is harvesting gold for aliens...
  11. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    All the people proclaiming "Trust me I am an engineer" all of a sudden just show us their degree.
    Either that or try to outwit one another.
  12. Hadron

    Hadron Smoke me a kipper...
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    Showing a degree may not mean much: an awful lot of British politicians have had degrees in Politics, Philosophy and Economics yet showed a woeful lack of understanding of any of those things. ;)
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  13. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    True but getting tired of the "Are you an engineer, can I trust you?" type cliche, come now, it is so worn out.
  14. dontpanicbobby

    dontpanicbobby 100% That Guy
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    I came to an agreement with the ants in my neighborhood to mine gold for me in exchange for stop stomping on their homes.
    I should get my first .001 gram any year now.
    Except for building Gorts the alien theory doesn't make sense.
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  15. Davdi

    Davdi Android Expert

    This almost makes the flat earth belief seem sensible. For clarification, it's not.
  16. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    I just got fooled by "if you turn this bird upside down" joke. "People will buy anything."
  17. Hadron

    Hadron Smoke me a kipper...
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    Yes. Actually I can see no conceptual reason why you can't have sentience without intelligence, or intelligence without sentience.
  18. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    Qualms are setting up for a retro view, and yet it is feeling that are passive then :)
  19. Hadron

    Hadron Smoke me a kipper...
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    I just read that at an Australian 5g/anti-vaxx/covid conspriacist rally (equally nutty as flat Earth, and equally incoherent) one speaker asked people to put their hands up if they had died of flu...
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