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Phandroid: Apple going after HTC

Vanquished

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Apple has decided to go after our beloved HTC and ban phones like our E3D.
Apple Brings HTC Into the Hardware Import Mix in Hopes to Ban Sale of Their Products




Oh, Samsung isn’t the only one constantly fighting for their lives in court against Apple. HTC is now in the crossfires of Apple based on similar complaints to ones against Samsung. Apple has accused HTC of infringing on patents that they believe should be grounds to ban the sale of HTC products in the United States.

The complaint was filed with the ITC today. Fortunately for HTC, they have made various strategic moves to acquire and license various patents and have a huge chance of thwarting the Apple attack, at least for the time being. With HTC’s portfolio of patents that they claim Apple is infringing on, they have just as much right to countersue Apple in this case and seek to ban the import of their iOS products.

Is this legal battle sounding like a broken record yet? That’s because Apple seems to be going after any and every competitor who dare stand in their way of maintaining significant market share in the smartphone arena. It’s not like Microsoft’s strategy, which only seeks to gain license fees from nearly every Android handset sold.

Apple flatout doesn’t want their competitors to succeed – they shouldn’t want to. But trying to get them banned from store shelves is such a cowardice way of going about your business. Apple, if you had a better business model, you’d still have a significant lead in the smartphone market. Stifling competition might work in the near term, but from my vantage point it looks like you’re fighting an uphill battle without a rope.

Apparently they are going after GetJar for using the term "App Store" right after Amazon. This article is pretty interesting as well, since Apple doesn't technically have the rights to the term.
Smartphone legal battles are officially ridiculous, GetJar is the latest victim of Apple’s bullying [RANT]

It seem as though the smartphone wars have become a mess of legal battles, rather than who offers the best products. Unfortunately the wallets of attorneys’ will get fatter, while innovation suffers.
The latest case involves GetJar. Apple already went after Amazon for the use of the term “App Store,” and although they did not lose, their motion for a preliminary injunction to bar Amazon from using the term “App Store” was denied. The case won’t be decided until late 2012. Now Apple has decided to go after GetJar for the same thing and they have given them a Cease & Desist notice for using the term “App Store.” GetJar started distributing apps in 2005, which is before Apple’s app store was in existence.
GetJar’s response is “We are not going to take it.” GetJar does not feel this is about Apple vs GetJar because they are not competitors with Apple. No one can compete on iOS as it is a closed ecosystem. They re-direct Apple users to Apple’s App Store as a courtesy for free with nothing asked in return. GetJar traffic comes mainly from Android users, which is a hundred times larger. GetJar feels that they don’t discriminate against Apple users, but Apple discriminates against them.

The timing of this is also interesting. GetJar just finished a major PR campaign about bringing Cut The Rope to Android. This is a game that won the Apple Design Award and GetJar brought it to Android for free as an exclusive. Their positioning moved from Appsolutely Everything to Appsolutely FREE. It seems like Apple is ticked off that GetJar gave “Cut The Rope” away for free.
The most interesting thing is that Apple really does not have a leg to stand on here. In 2008, Apple tried to register “App Store” with the United States Patent and Trademark Office and was denied. They filed again and were given a “provisional” registration under the condition that no one opposed the registration. Shortly after that Microsoft, as well as others, opposed it. Furthermore, GetJar has been using the term “App Store” since early 2009 and now Apple decides to go after them?
I don’t know about any of you, but I am getting sick and tired of all these patent suits and legal issues. Apple has gone after Samsung for copying them, Amazon and GetJar for the term “App Store,” and a few manufacturers for multitouch. Microsoft is now demanding money from Android manufacturers like HTC, Samsung, and others. A week or so ago, Google lost a bid for Nortel patents to Apple, Microsoft, RIM, and others. Recently, Apple won a very broad patent on displays that will cause them to, no doubt, file claims with everyone and their brother. Can we just concentrate on making innovative products without all of this? Seriously, does Apple think they are going to shutdown Android? Does Microsoft think this is the way to gain market share?
All of this equals big profits for lawyers and a very big cost to the consumer. Even if one could argue that device costs will not be higher because of all these legal costs, you still have to question what it does to innovation? Imagine if all of this money was actually spent on R&D, we could have more improved technologies quicker. Why not just come out with a better product than your competitor? Hey Microsoft, you watched Apple and Google take over the market share while you did nothing innovative. Now that you want to re-enter the game, and instead of letting your product speak for itself, you think your competition should pay for the fact that you fell asleep at the wheel. What about you Apple? You make a great product and have a great following, not to mention huge profits. You aren’t disappearing anytime soon, so why do you feel the need to lower yourself like this? You point your finger at everyone and then you announce iOS 5, which has elements that are directly taken from Android. Should Google sue you for that?
Unfortunately, I fear this is only the tip of the iceberg, and the space that this post takes would be better served in writing about something innovative in Android development, rather than ridiculous legal wars that never end well.

It's interesting to see how Apple's business model has changed from when they were nearly bankrupt to today as well. The first 30 seconds of this video show Steve Jobs saying that businesses need to work together and have good relationships for the industry to move forward...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY
 
I've said this before. I've never really had a problem with Apple products. They tend to make quality products. I prefer Android and Windows because of the customization you can do with them though. I have purchased iPods in the past and like them as well.

With all of the nonsense that Apple is creating though, I refuse to buy anything from them, even a song off of iTunes. It's been several years since I bought anything from them, and I will never buy anything from them again because of their business model and the moron of a CEO they have.

It's a shame, really. Why can't they just "partner up" as Steve Jobs himself said rather than sue everyone and hinder the innovation in the tech industry?
 
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I agree with you Vanquished. They make good products and if they do everything you need them to, then who cares? Choose the product that makes YOU the happiest. However with these repeated attacks on other competing companies in addition to some of the decisions made with DRM protection on older iTunes music, I'm really disappointed with Apple. It seems like they're just getting greedy, jealous, and selfish.
When I speak about the DRM protection on older music I'm speaking about being asked personally by Apple to pay $130 to "unlock" music I've already purchased through them once already. They could easily unlock all older DRM protected music for free and be praised for doing so, but no. I have to pay for music I already bought once... ridiculous...
 
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Well, that just cements it. I will never buy another Apple product, again. Unless absolutely necessary because nothing else exists. By all means, if someone genuinely wrongs you, you should stand up for your brand. Squabbling over "App Store"? That's just ridiculous. Clearly Apple has nothing better to do than throw their weight around to try to make more room for the iPhone X+1. Doesn't HTC have a stronger claim because they made the PocketPC back in the day, before Apple even conceptualized the first iPhone?
 
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Well, that just cements it. I will never buy another Apple product, again. Unless absolutely necessary because nothing else exists. By all means, if someone genuinely wrongs you, you should stand up for your brand. Squabbling over "App Store"? That's just ridiculous. Clearly Apple has nothing better to do than throw their weight around to try to make more room for the iPhone X+1. Doesn't HTC have a stronger claim because they made the PocketPC back in the day, before Apple even conceptualized the first iPhone?
Frankly, I wouldn't care if they were the only source, I never have purchased Apple products and I never will, their business model just makes me ill. I've never even been tempted to own an iPod, iPad, iPhone, Mac, or anything else of the sort. There are other manufacturers out there making quality products I prefer - well, until Apple legally manipulates them out of business there are :rolleyes:
 
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I just made a blog post about this relating to the case at hand and patents in general. In short, Apple has become the very opposite of innovation. They have always lead the pack when it comes to unique offerings and ideas. Now, they're trying to blot out the competition because things are moving to fast for them. Apple wants to keep things slow so they can keep their huge profit margins off outdated hardware. How would Apple expect to compete against manufacturers bringing out dual-core chipset phones every month and they haven't even released information about what the next iPhone will be?

Personally, I'm almost more disgusted with Microsoft's mafia strong arm tactics. It's less overt since Microsoft can hardly handle any bad press with the sordid past. It's still wrong and I believe Barnes and Noble is going to challenge it if I'm not mistaken. Hopefully they win. Many of these patents need to be invalidated or made public domain because with companies going to war like this, we're going to be the ones that lose.
 
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Why do you think they're unique in the tech industry? Are you unaware of all the other lawsuits kicked off by all the other players?

Because of Steve Jobs attitude when Apple was about to tank. It is a unique situation because of how they have completely turned on those that kept them alive. I may not be aware of every lawsuit going on but Apple seems to be going overboard, especially with patents and ideas that were never theirs to begin with (and quite frankly I don't care to know, since everyone sues everyone at the drop of a hat these days).
 
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I've said this before. I've never really had a problem with Apple products. They tend to make quality products. I prefer Android and Windows because of the customization you can do with them though. I have purchased iPods in the past and like them as well.

With all of the nonsense that Apple is creating though, I refuse to buy anything from them, even a song off of iTunes. It's been several years since I bought anything from them, and I will never buy anything from them again because of their business model and the moron of a CEO they have.

It's a shame, really. Why can't they just "partner up" as Steve Jobs himself said rather than sue everyone and hinder the innovation in the tech industry?

Very well said and ditto.
 
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Frankly, I wouldn't care if they were the only source, I never have purchased Apple products and I never will, their business model just makes me ill. I've never even been tempted to own an iPod, iPad, iPhone, Mac, or anything else of the sort. There are other manufacturers out there making quality products I prefer - well, until Apple legally manipulates them out of business there are :rolleyes:

And yet you still put gas in your car from Exxon, 76 or whereever and eat at stores like McDonalds. If you want to cater to certain businesses based on their business model that fits your ethos, then you won't be buying from many places.

Oh wait, this is just the hate on Apple forum. If you think Google is a saint of a company, I got a bridge to sell you in Arizona.
 
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And yet you still put gas in your car from Exxon, 76 or whereever and eat at stores like McDonalds. If you want to cater to certain businesses based on their business model that fits your ethos, then you won't be buying from many places.

Oh wait, this is just the hate on Apple forum. If you think Google is a saint of a company, I got a bridge to sell you in Arizona.
Where I buy my gas or where I eat has nothing to do with this discussion. I certainly can and do base my decisions on what I buy and whom I buy it from on how I feel about the product - that's the way it works. I don't like Apple. Doesn't mean it's a hate Apple forum, it's an opinion, which I am totally entitled to have - as you are to have yours. Since this is an Android forum, you'll find many opinions here about various manufacturers, Samsung is one, some swear they'll never buy another one because of certain Captivate issues. Again, decisions based on how businesses operate happen all the time - it's the way it works.
 
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