Unlimited Pandora/HD radio

 

All of this for about $1200-1500 per year less than me and my wife can on ATT on any comparable phone/plan combination yet still knowing it's not going to be 4G until at least '12.

 

The Flash Lite / Full Flash is not unique to the EVO. It will be supported on all FroYo devices.

 

You mean all these features combined in a single handset, as opposed to spread across many different devices? Then, Yes, I agree.

 

unlimited twittering

 

That's on every single phone with SMS.

 

Unlimited Pandora? Most any device can do now, unless you mean because of the lack of a 5G cap, but if you were streaming anywhere close to 5G worth of Pandora.....you must listen to music 24/7.

Can the quality of Pandora be altered though? I know the default setting is 128kbps, but on a computer at least, you can set it to 192kbps. Since the EVO can handle network speed equal to a typical Wi-Fi connection, it would be awfully nice if we could have higher-quality streaming music on it as well.

 

can someone provide a link or concrete proof the 5g cap is lifted?

 

My beef, if you can call it that, with this thread is that the $10 fee is not for any of the things stated at the starth... The fee is a "Premium Data Add-on" (Sprint's words) but there has never been a definition of what premium data are. Just about everything listed is possible, today, on my Palm Treo 800w (to some extent... lets not talk about raw performance, here).

Specifically:

1.) Wimax
- one must buy a phone compatible... the EVO is... that's why someone might buy this phone. That capability should be in the phone and/or the service plan but Sprint C-level execs have publicly stated there is no additional charge for 4G (so the $10 fee is not for this).

2.) Flash support lite, with 10.1 coming with froyo

- um, OK, but flash is a free app. I'm not paying for Flash... I can get all the flash data I want on my phone, now, and then move it to my PC for viewing (not sure why I'd want to, but I can).

3.) Tethering according to this post. Anyone with an EVO try tethering vita PDANet?

I can tether, today.

4.) 4.3 inch screen with youtube support.

OK... I have a small screen, but I'm buying a new phone for that (the screen is not an ongoing expense to anyone). Youtube is free and I can get that, now...

5.) Removal of all caps or limitations on both 3g and 4g.

I have no 3g caps and I can't use 4g in my area, anyway.

6.) No restrictions on 3rd party apps.
I have none, now.

7.) Phone to Phone video chats.
OK, got me there... I bet there is a winmo application to do it, though (could be slow, but that's partly a 3G issue as well which won't be fixed with my fee since I'm on 3G - and the fee is not for 4G as previously stated).

8.) Full uncompressed/unrestricted internet.
Huh? What's that? I don't compress my Internet, now. There are no restrictions - I can download all the porn, lies and reviews of cell phones I want.

9.) Voice and data at the same time with wimax.

Again, wimax... remember, we're not being charged for that.

10.) HD pandora streaming.

Again, this is an application. With my unlimited data plan, now, I could download all the HD content I want (although I might not be able to view it on my device... but we're talking about "Premium Data," remember? It's all about the data, and I can get it, now.

11.) GPS included.
Already have that...

12.) Sprint TV.
Already have that...

So what am I paying $10/mo for that I don't already have? I'm not complaining about the fee as a charge. I'm still trying to understand what it's for (besides additional revenue for Sprint). Sprint has every right to charge whatever they want and let the market decide what to buy, but when I see commercials about the easy, simple "everything" pricing Sprint offers and then they start tacking on additional fees, that starts to make me wonder where this will stop (and it won't if we let them do it without making them justify it to us).

So can anyone find a definition of "Premium Data Add-on" from Sprint? And I'd also like to suggest that, since it's mandatory, it should not be called an "Add-on" as there is no way to remove it. It's a fee to compensate for what Sprint believes to be too low of an everything plan. I guess that's not as catchy a phrase, though...

 

Most of those feature you can also do on any other android phones with out the extra fee... enough said!!

 

5g? damn, you're an extra lucky one!

 

I don't think dzar is complaining, I think he just wants to know what exactly "Premium Data Add-on" is and I'm going to assume that he isn't the only one that wants to know (I'm just judging from the high number of complaints that have been brought up about the issue). He clearly states that he isn't complaining about the charge, but just wants to know the definition of "Premium Data". Dzar: "I'm not complaining about the fee as a charge. I'm still trying to understand what it's for (besides additional revenue for Sprint)."

He just showed how the aspects of the Evo you listed are not considered "Premium Data" because you can obtain most of those features through another phone if you don't live in a 4G area, specifically through another Sprint phone with the "Everything Data Plan". So maybe instead of telling him not to get the phone, you should give him a better definition of what "Premium Data" is, especially for those that live in a 3G area and do not have access to 4g, because he proved that your current list is not sufficient enough to conclude that the phone does indeed provide "Premium Data".

 

Yeah I agree with above. People are simply pointing out that most of your list with the exception of WiMax can used on other phones too. Dzar stated he is not complaining about the $10 fee, he understands that it is what it is.

 

I though dzar's post was a great reply to what you had posted. You listed everything you are getting for the extra $10 fee. He listed almost all of that is already available on every other device without the extra charge.

Take away the fact of 4G, which like he said we are not paying extra for, and your not really getting anything extra for the $10 that is not available on other phones.

So he kind of made your post irrelevant if you ask me. So what exactly do you get that you do not get with other devices for the $10? Not much!

Sprint should have just said all new 4G phones that will be coming out will need a new Sprint plan starting at $79.99. Period! Like mentioned before, the $10 add on i not an add on if you do not have a choice not to take it.

And the funniest thing is when Sprint tells you the phone will not work unless they add the $10 fee. I am sure it will work just the same without it. It is not like they have a special button they add to your plan that magically makes your Evo work. They just won't hook it up without it, but it sure will work if they forgot to add the $10 charge when they activate it.

Sprint, we are not stupid so don't feed us stupid lines! Just say you are raising you prices and be done with it. Don't say a new feature isn't costing more but actually less and then raise prices because of the new feature. That has to be one of the dumbest moves I have ever seen. And the best part is these posts that say it's not a 4G charge but for premium data. We already have premium data on all other devices with a everything data plan for 69.99!

 

Honestly, uncapping data and allowing you access to every city-wide Wimax network is worth it to me. In my opinion they failed in describing this charge from a marketing standpoint. Maybe they will do better when the ads roll out but I think they shouldn't have positioned it as a "premium data" fee regardless of whether or not you have Wimax. Despite the extensive list of Evo exclusives, people are still going to look at it as a "4G tax" where they may not even have Wimax in their city.

They should have marketed it as a feature of the Evo 4G which allows them to access any city-wide Wimax hotspot where available. By thinking of it more as a big hotspot, people realize that they will not always be around one but will want to connect when they are. It's like adding a wifi radio to a laptop even though you may not use wifi at home. You still gain the freedom to connect to a hotspot when you are at a cafe or the office or whatever.

 

While i dont have a link i can tell you it is in the launch material that is provided to retailers by Sprint. There is no cap in 3g or 4g for the phone OR for tethering

 

I hear what you are saying but you pointed out things that other phones have and he said "Hey other phones have this" . Not to mention you made some things up.. what is "Full uncompressed/unrestricted internet" and " HD pandora streaming"? The ten dollar fee has nothing to do with it.

 

HAHAHAHAH all threads here no matter the topic seem to get derailed... BUT BUT BUT TEH TEN BUX

 

Actually, you get unlimited, uncapped data. Thats what the $10 fee is for.

Be grateful that you are not on Verizon. They are already thinking of charging for LIMITED DATA on 4G. Here is the article posted about half hour ago...

So Long, Unlimited Data: Verizon Wants Tiered 4G Plans [Verizon]

 

No one complained about the fee. But your thread title doesn't make sense with your first post. Your title is asking what you get with the Premium data package. 4G, Voice and Data, and Video calls. That is pretty much it. That is the answer to your question.

But from your first post, you pretty much just list the features of the EVO and they are not just features specific to this device but features that are offered on other devices as well...

So which is it? Do you just want to know what features the EVO offers or what you get with the $10 add on? Either way, each question had been answered a numerous amount of times!