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  1. Mykpfsu

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    My point was more akin to you can buy 5 phones. So a family of four could all get a Nexus. But due to Google's asinine decision about family plans that family would have to buy them unsubsidized. A couple would be out $1060, a family of four would cost $2120.
    Google doesn't seem interested in getting as much market share as they can.
    What would be the point of ebaying them is you just need to wait a week and can buy direct from Google. Unless the "unlocked" (thats cracking me up) will only be invite only forever.
     

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  2. ManMythLegend

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    Not disagreeing with you. Merely pointing out that there's no "logical for the consumer" aspect to this.

    Im convinced the reason Google employees were told to keep quiet was because releasing that price info 3 weeks ago would have mounted to ZERO hype.

    I will say this. Google has a WEALTH of our personal information. It will be interesting to see if all that number crunching there predictive algorithms and consumer data mining have being done will be accurate. If people go out and spend 530$ in droves Google servers know us better than we know ourselves.
     
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    not certain, but it seems like the details in the bullet list don't agree with the actual screen shots.

    If it says you need a new, separate plan, why would the screen shot say "existing users MAY qualify for upgrade pricing"
     
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    Some users are already on those plans.
    Im assuming those on the bring your own phone version of plan are eligible for upgrade pricing.


    ATT and Sprint have shown there is ZERO intention of letting smartphone users stay on there current plans. Telecoms have full intention of forcing everyone into higher rate plans while doing minimal upgrades to there network. VZN introducing a 350 ETF is further proof of this.
    This is why so many were counting on Google to strike a blow. They not only didnt strike a blow..they came out and hugged the telecom. Its like a bad episode of WWE Monday Night Raw.
     
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    Everyone is Google didnt do this didnt do that.

    Google hasnt done anything yet. That "leak" is not confirmed.

    Here is what is confirmed ...

    1. The Nexus Ons device is real.
    2. Google is having a press converance 1-5-10.
    3. No "official" price
    4. No "official" release date
    5. No "official" anything

    Lets just wait and see what the 5th brings, before we start complaining about stuff we dont even know yet.
     
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    im pissed i just went with tmobile on dec 1st with a mytouch. now the nexus is coming.. im stuck with a mytouch with no out for another 2 years.. grrrr wtf! im not paying 530 for the phone that for damm sure
     
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    I have a cold....Id much rather bit<h and whine than wait.:D

    Considering just about every major rumor has been accurate ((processor , leaked pics , os update , tmo ,release date)) I see no reason to think why this price structure isnt accurate.
    The price was the one point noone seemed to have any clue and was the one aspect there was no tangible evidence of.
     
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    I took it to mean that if you were already on the plan and had reached a certain time limit you could upgrade to the phone. Hence the "may" part.
     
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    Would the plan youre on be cheaper or the same as what is being offered for Nexus 1 ?
     
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    yes nothing is official but the fact that most of this info is dropping minutes from eachother leads me to believe in its authenticity. alot of it will be tweaked most likely but im gambling that most of it is real
     
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    im gonna cry :(
     
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    Pretty disheartening to find out you have to sign up for a whole new plan to qualify for the subsidized phone.
     
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    I was considering returning my droid and switching to tmobile for the nexus one, but if this pricing is accurate, I will stick with the droid and verizon. My monthly bill is a few dollars more on verizon with my employers discount than what the no contract plans are at tmobile, so i will stick with the better network plus i got my droid for just a little more than the rumored 2 year contract price of the nexus one and I only have a 1 year contract for my droid on verizon.
     
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    i think it is good price, relative to prices here in Israel, but with all the taxes in israel the price will jump to 700$ at least
     
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    It doesn't make sense. To force that phone onto a only one plan is not tmo.That's just wrong. The other part about 500 minutes would effectively kill the sales of the phone! T-Mobile contract conditions for the N1 can only be equal to the one of the G1.

    And it contradicts this: T-Mobile &#8220;Officially&#8221; Confirms Google Phone | TmoNews - Unofficial T-Mobile Blog - News, Videos, Articles and more

    The link above points to a most logical explanation. If this phone is to be subsidized by T-Mobile, the staff would have been in training already.

    The jizzmodo's actual digits may be correct and even seem reasonable if you think about it. But the contract terms, no way.

    My prediction, as of now: ~ $180 for a phone with a 2 year contract, same contract options, terms & conditions as for any other smart phone (data plan, text plan, blah blah) and unlocked for ~ $500

    If at all, TMO would attempt ripping off customers, it could only be increasing the price of data plan, not believing it myself, just throwing out the "worst case scenario" for the customer perspective.

    No minute limitation, not by TMO, not in a million years.

    Be happy, folks! $180 with subsidy, TMO got a kick a$$ phone!
     
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    agreed. if i hear no news soon about the bravo/incredible on VZW, i'll gladly switch to TMo and sign the subsidy contract. i live in chicago, so their coverage is not a problem here. it has everything i wanted:

    2.1 android
    3.7 screen
    snapdragon
    camera w/ flash
    probably other stuff i cant think of right now.
     
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    Hello everyone, great site...thanks for giving me one place for all the latest Nexus One news.

    I created an EXCEL sheet with various annual market rates of capitalization. Assuming that you keep the phone for the full two years, I wanted to see which plan was better: subsidized or unsubsidized

    1. Unsubsidized at $60 per month with T-Mobile Even More Plus (and $530)
    2. Subsidized plan at $80 per month (and $180)

    I used NPV (Net Present Value) to compare the two plans.

    I just want to note that comparing for periods longer than 2 years was unnecessary obviously because once the 2 years is up, you can switch to the Even More Plus plan if you chose the subsidized route. Comparing less than 2 years was pointless because of early termination fees.

    Please see the 3 attached files (1 JPEG and 2 DOC) for a detailed month-to-month comparison of the plan options. I believe the average annual rate would probably be somewhere around 7%. That would indicate a present value savings of about $97 by going the unsubsidized route over the subsidized route.

    So if you can afford the money up front, I would definitely choose to go unsubsidized. Plus, you will have more freedom with the device that way.
     

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    This phone was the main reason i was going to go Android but after seeing the price heck no, and i dont want to be tied down to a contract either =\, so looks like imma just get a Droid and maybe get the 2.1 update

    I thought Google was going to sell the phone at $200 unlocked, allow users to choose their carriers or just use it over WiFi with Google Voice, Sorta like a Android iPod Touch + more
     
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    guess i'll wait for verizons version of the nexus
    im on page plus id much rather buy a phone outright for 500 and stick with my 40 a mo plan then switch to tmobile for twice that just to get edge speed in my area. Shame I really wanted this one.

    So i guess the wait continues whats HTC's verizon phone the bravo/passion? im so confused.

    Oh and is it true that google voice doesn't count as text messages? hows that? It uses data?
     
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    It's funny how Americans don't want to pay $530 for a phone with the contract & carrier of their choice but do want to pay $80 a month (+ some for the phone) and get stuck with a 2yr contract..

    I can hardly imagine that in the end you pay less with a subsidized one!

    I'm glad it's forbidden in my country to sell subsidized phones :)
     
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    Good, stay there.
     
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    This deal will have lost a lot of it's appeal due to coming too late after holidays with people blowing their budgets on gifts up until few days ago.

    There has to be more than one plan available though. Even if google is actually handling the subsidy instead of TMO, this thing would sell like 3d glasses at the avatar premiere. Imagine how many sales they could make with allowing customers to pick this phone with their existing plans and attract new customer to a smart phone plan of their choice.

    TMO is not a dominant carrier in the US. They have the smallest customer base, the 3G coverage lags behind the big players.

    Only a dominant carrier could attempt to force this down their customer's throat.
     
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    I beg to differ. Any carrier can "attempt" to shove this down our throat. T_mo w/ google's help is about to try or show us how its done. Whether it works or not is another question. Personally i don't see what the big deal is. If you walk into any store that sells unsub "smart" phones the price is usually way, way higher. Only in this situation Google is getting T-Mo's blessing by allowing a subsidized version. as for the rate plan ( a small oversight in my opinion) i believe google is trying to keep their "headache" minimal by offering just the lowest rate plan, then afterwards you should be able to call T-mo and INCREASE to whatever plan that you wanted.
     
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    I'd buy the phone at $530 if it truly had freedom of choice for carrier, but they chose to only really allow it's full capabilities on Tmobile...now if it turns out on the 5th that they are actually coming out with 3 different Nexuses (Nexii?) then I'll eat my post and pony up the cash...but as it stands, if this is truly what is going to be offered then it's just a good ol money grab and nothing new from the norm.
     
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    i forsee an official announcement that will knock this forums socks off.
     
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