So I've read all I can read about the Desire and its battery problems, but this time its different. Heres my issue: I got my new HTC Desire and charged it up fully for 12 hours (this was what I was told to do, and I've read in numerous places that this is a decent time frame) and only after I had finished this without interuption I turned it on. So to make it clear I turned the phone on for the first time after 12 HOURS of charging at the wall while off. Everything seemed ok, etc, etc, and then of course the batteries dying in no time like everyone elses. Now heres where it gets weird. After reading on here and everywhere else how bad the battery is the first thing I did was turn OFF all the battery eating crap: WIFI - OFF 3G - OFF* (only on when I turn it on MYSELF) Screen - Dimmed to like 10% Sound - Silent Vibrate - OFF Bluetooth - OFF SYNC (this is for EVERYTHING) - OFF Haptic feedback - OFF Basically everything is off. When I HAVE used the net, I turned on 3G for that (not wifi) and used Opera mini (because 3mb avatar gifs are funny on pc's, not so much when you have a 500mb monthly limit). I know where all the menus are for running services, manage apps, etc and turn off all the calenders, stock exchange syncs, everything like that. So bare in mind that this is a seriously streamlined phone in terms of stuff I have enabled, imagine my dismay as after a few txts my battery is literally going down before my eyes. it barely lasted the day, charged over night, same again the next day, barely an hour of 3G usage on opera, admittedly i txt A LOT, but come on. I tried juice-defender, ATK, battery widgets and Im firmly in the corner with people who think they do more harm than good (my 13hour awake time while using them tells me everything i need to know!!! awful!!) So i got rid of all of them. So my point is - whats going on and what can I do to fix it. Android System takes up a huge amount of my data usage. I find TXTing is the killer here for me, purely because im not using ANYTHING else hardly! I've factory reset my phone (to get rid of those pesky apps TOTALLY) and am charging ready to go to war with this again tomorrow morning. I feel this is totally ruining the experience of having a smart phone which can do all this stuff. I'm sat there with a totally black background with just the message icon on my entire sense homepage in the hope of saving battery and it barely lasts a day. Pathetic. Its worse than when I had a Nokia 3310 lol at least that had snake!!! I darent download any games incase it kills my battery even more. In these days of apps, widgets, whatever, surely me TEXTING my friends isn't killing the battery to the point where it lasts under 12 hours? In all seriousness my previous phone was a SE W995, which I left 3g on ALL the time and would last for days with loads of txting, facebooking, etc. I have put my sim back in that while the Desire charges upstairs. I hope I can find the answer to all this because its just not good enough, not fit for purpose. Help!!