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  1. redman2563

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    Hey all. just have a really stupid question and im embarrassed to ask this, but i successfully installed zefies latest kernel, does that mean that my phone is rooted? I have the moment of course if there was some confusion. thanks for your time and for putting up with a noob=)
     

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    Okay, I'm going to ask another noob questions. I've been cruising these forums for about a week and have yet to figure out

    Why I would want to root my phone?
    Or how to root my phone?


    Is this information in a FAQ or something? Please no flames.

    Thanks.
     
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    basically, it allows your superuser access to your phone. you have full control of what to delete, modify, etc. this allows you to get rid of some of those pesky pre-installed applications; and eventually, developer-willing, be able to flash custom roms to the phone. it also lets you tweak things on the phone as well.
     
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    Garbage Man...as far as you know
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    Thanks for asking the "why" question. I was also wondering why. I've seen it said "to remove Bejeweled Demo" from the phone but is it really worth the risk of bricking the phone to do this? Or is there not a chance that bricking would occur? I've read all the hows and whats, but very few whys....unless I go to the beginning of time and read all the threads.
     
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    There really is no chance of bricking the phone anymore.. That was with the btld_testmode root that was highly unstable (forced the phone into a readwrite mode and you never undid it, thus anything could alter system files)... With the kernel root you can mount rw and then remount ro so nothing can touch the system files...
    Also there is a recovery console in zef's roms now so even if it does brick, you can hard reset OUTSIDE of android...
    Plus zef wrote a datatool program that makes a tar backup of your files.. so if you do brick it, you can reload from the tar file and have the system exactly how it was before you started messing with removing applications
     
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    Garbage Man...as far as you know
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    That's...interesting. So (I'm a complete Android n00b) it acts almost like an actual PC where you can do anything to the OS/Software but can always recover with a fresh OS install, correct?

    If Sprint goes to 2.1 OS and does not release source for several months (not sure how that works), would that exclude those who use the kernel root from upgrading to the 2.1 until they do? Or, like Apple did, turn off access to the phones not running Sprint's "Stock" OS?

    My apologies if the questions have been answered before.
     
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    Naa..
    We can ALWAYS flash to default kernel from the hacked kernel.. basically it puts the phone into the same state as when you bought it out of the box.. so that is an issue..
    And sprint would have a huge problem on their hands if they didn't release the source as soon as they release the update.. GNU is very strict in its open source policy
     
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    Garbage Man...as far as you know
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    Well, thank you for taking time to answer some obviously "n00b" questions and setting my (and many others, I'm sure) mind at ease. I think I may have a weekend project now.
     
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    Here is a link the samsung moment wiki:

    Samsung Moment Wiki

    Step by step how to flash your phone and many other things.

    Here is a link to a decticated moment fourm:

    Samsung Moment Forum - Index

    In case you dont already spend enough time browsing forums on your new 'toy'

    Cheers Mate
     
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    Note a lot of developers will not be returning to samsung moment forum.. new development forum that a lot of them moved to in my signature

    The wiki is actually officially supported by sdx-developers (zef and myself for starters)
     
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    I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but when I use the command prompt and go to the ADB directory and type adb shell, it always tells me that it can't find the device. I've got the phone in recovery mode, USB debugging is checked.... what could I be missing?
     

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