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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by streetkilln, Jul 29, 2014.

  1. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User


    Yeppers. For most benchies, we do not know the weight in regards to parameters used, or the algorithms for calculation. An example is some benchies are heavy on GPU function. Then people wonder why the device is not as snappy, when the GPU is only a portion of the series chain of operations. CPU, display tech, ram speed, memory allocation, I/O control, stack registers, etc are also factors. Since in a series chain with the GPU, there is a bottleneck at the weakest link of that chain.

    As far as 801/805, most content is not Qhd and folks might not want it when they see the likely resource hit- especially the 801. We are probably two years away from the average of mobile content being 1080p and further for Qhd.

    Added: It will be interesting to see the S4 in September. If Samsung has not come up with a more power efficient display tech, they will be in a similar situation as the G3, but with a little better Qhd performance. The battery efficiency of the 805 would probably be offset by the bigger display.
     



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  2. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
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    I need to find the AnTuTu post in the prerelease thread where 3 separate runs gave numbers spread over 3,000.

    I agree that benchmarks are of little use but friends don't let friends trust AnTuTu.
     
  3. Maine Coon

    Maine Coon Android Expert

    yeah, it was my post.
     
  4. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
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    I thought it was. :)

    Anyway - choose the phone you like, don't worry about AnTuTu.
     
  5. UBRocked

    UBRocked VZW Nexus Please!!!

    I run several benchmarks to compare devices but almost for entertainment purposes. Its a rough estimate of your phones performance. If you run a benchmark on a new phone or a two year old phone...the new phone will always win by a lot so it's not like it's totally random.

    Real world experience trumps benchmarks. If you really valued benchmarks or gave any weight to people that talk about 1080p versus 2k causing slow downs with this phone you could do that. In both cases you would think the performance of this phone isn't as fast in real world usage as the M8 or S5. But that isn't the case. In normal usage you aren't maxing the cpu or gpu. Battery life is something that could take a hit because our the higher res screen but battery life is pretty good on this device in comparison to phones like the S5 so don't believe what you don't see for yourself.
     
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  6. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
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    My benchmarks have nearly doubled with each generation, and yet what I have is somehow not 16x faster in my hand than what I ran in 2010. :D

    It just does more. :)
     
  7. UBRocked

    UBRocked VZW Nexus Please!!!

    This sounds like an opportunity for a real world test. Lets all go back to our first Android phones for one week haha!
     
  8. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
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    My first two are gone but I still tinker with my 2011 copy.

    It didn't suck when I got it and it doesn't suck now - just danged peculiar going back to Gingerbread! :rofl:

    It's slower - but not so much as the blogosphere would say.

    Do I *want* to go back and use it for my daily driver?

    Yeah. No. :D
     
  9. UBRocked

    UBRocked VZW Nexus Please!!!

    Haha! Gingerbread. Its fun to look back cause I remember when Froyo was a whole leap forward LOL! God the OS was so ugly back then.

    I'm thinking it's like with computers though. People always have me try and make their old computers run like new again. They talk about how it was fast when they got it but even after a complete wipe and reloading the same OS...it doesn't run the same. Why? Well, the world has changed...new updated web browsers are more heavily tasked, programs offer improvements but demand more processing power and RAM. It will never be as fast as they remember it being when they first got it.

    So 16 times the performance??? Well, 2.5 GHz quad core Snapdragon 801 with 3GB RAM versus single core OMAP processor clocked at 600MHz with 512 MB of ram? Yeah...I think I buy that LOL!

    #wayofftopic haha!
     
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  10. drexappeal

    drexappeal Extreme Android User

    I have a slightly different take, EM. As much as I loved my Photon back in the day, the only thing that gives me comfort in having it as a "backup" phone, is the fact that it's not a phone that people will be jumping through hoops to steal, and it'll serve as an international phone whenever I travel (although, as soon as I get my next upgrade, its current title will likely go to my Note 3).

    Gingerbread was definitely okay, for what it was, but Jelly Bean is still my favorite. I'm almost glad I never got to experience ICS (since Motorola stepped back from their initial promise to support the Photon) because Jelly Bean still had the ability to move apps to the SD. Of course, Kit Kat has somewhat mucked that up again.
     
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    drexappeal Extreme Android User

  12. pastafarian

    pastafarian Pâtes avec votre foie

    I bought the Note 2 mainly because of the stylus. It was the one and only "feature" I missed from my old winmo days. With the exception of some initial experimentation, I probably used that stylus 4x in 2 years. Times change. I can see it being important for some though.
     
  13. Crashumbc

    Crashumbc Android Expert

    exactly,


    And may I say its also nice to see another, who worships the great one's noodly appendages :p

    #FSM
     
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  14. chong67

    chong67 Android Expert

    I was thinking of getting this G3 too but only for one thing, I dont like back firing speaker.

    I have no choice but to get the Note 4.
     
  15. drexappeal

    drexappeal Extreme Android User

    Only reason I'm still obsessed with the Note series, is the S-pen. It was such a better experience than even when I used it in the Win-Mo days (Mogul and Touch Pro), and I used the stylus on both phones all the time.

    With the Note series ability to write notes, that has been my biggest thing. When out and about and needing to take notes on the fly, while on a call, that has been so useful. On top of that, grocery lists, little note reminders, etc...Basically, anything I used to use post it notes for or little reminders, I do that all with either my Note 8 or Note 3. Since Samsung changed the software from the Note 2, it took a little 'bit of a step back for me because I could no longer easily sync between my Note 8 and Note 3 (as I did, when I had the Note 2). Now, it's become less of a need to have the two (2) sync.

    Having purchased the G3 as a secondary device, and then transferring it over for my mother to use, I really do love how the device felt, and the specs were more than fine for what I wanted. Only thing missing was a built in stylus (for me), so if LG's stylus is a WACOM digitizer, I'm pretty much sold on getting it, if the overall physical size is smaller than the Note 3, but sporting a 5.7-5.9 screen. It would be amazing to me, if they fit a 5.9 in a form factor that is smaller overall than the Note 2 or Note 3. Bonus would be if they offered a 64gb version, to persuade other Note series owners that have been clamoring for Samsung to offer the option a long time ago.
     
  16. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
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    Ramen!
     
  17. Damar1979

    Damar1979 Android Enthusiast


    The 1 watt speaker is actually pretty damn loud though. And getting the note 4 because of the G3's back speaker doesn't make sense, since Samsung is notorious for having weak speakers in terms of volume in their phones
     
  18. pastafarian

    pastafarian Pâtes avec votre foie

    And I haven't seen anything suggesting that the Note 4 will have front firing speakers either.
     
  19. pastafarian

    pastafarian Pâtes avec votre foie

    I had both of those! I would hope that the stylus on the Note was better that the hunk of plastic stylus on the resistive tech WinMo. BTW, combined both those phones have a smaller screen than even the Note 1. Talk about changed times. I was so excited to have a stylus again....only to find I had no real use for a stylus anymore. :(

    Enjoy the N4, it looks to be a beast.
     
  20. SpyderBite

    SpyderBite Well-Known Member

    I realize it's a personal preference. But I never understood why people listen to their device's speakers when the quality is so much better with earphones/buds.

    Thus the speaker quality of a device would never be a deal breaker for me. Especially if it had all the other features I wanted.
     
  21. zipred

    zipred Android Expert

    I've just been busted as the Android Addict I Am ha...ha...ha....

    Laughing at myself and the fact that I kept my G-1 from T-Mobile. I enjoyed that phone so much despite all its bugs, I kept it as the milestone it was in my personal smartphone journey.
     
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  22. zipred

    zipred Android Expert

    The clunker I drove to college had a classic sounding backfire.

    I can't comment on the sound of my G3, since I have a few different crazy expensive yet wonderful pairs of earbuds I use.
     
  23. drexappeal

    drexappeal Extreme Android User

    It'll either be the G3 Stylus or wait until a foldable phone/tablet is on the market (which, I'm hoping to see in 2015, per some Samsung and LG).
     
  24. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
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    There's no question (and not because I own one but it's why I own one) - if you want front facing speakers and the best hardware DSP, get an M8 and flash the Harman Kardon mod - there's nothing like it.

    If you want more screen and less bezels, get the G3.

    If you want a Note, get a Note.

    To me these are all separate class devices.

    It's only hard if one of the classes doesn't strongly appeal to you.

    Then you're not only choosing devices but across classes as well.

    But - with the bold design moves by LG here, I think that we truly have the new class defined.

    I've read just about every battery related post and article, here and at XDA as far as the forums go.

    Regardless of personal mileage, the additional QHD circuitry eats more power. That's just silicon truth. So guess what - the design statement is complete with a removable battery.

    I don't read that as "let's copy Samsung." I read that as balanced design - they knew what the screen decision would do to a lot of users so they planned to mitigate it from the start.

    And as far as I'm concerned, it's the balanced design that makes this a class rather than a gimmick.

    So, my opinion is that if any one of the 3 classes I've mentioned by example really appeal to you then the other two won't make sense to you and they'll seem deficient by comparison.

    Because - class preference, and each class really has one and only one top of class choice.

    Believe it or not but now that I've lived with my class choice (and prerelease thread buds know that I really chose for the speakers, that is my class choice) I'm actually glad I have more bezel happening. It's still skinny, the side bezels don't exist because they gave room I wanted for case overlap, and the top and bottom bezels are invisible - they just force more stereo separation.

    Not too long ago, I was very much screen centric. All of the og EVO owners and Note owners, and now G3 owners, know exactly what I'm talking about.

    If I'd read the above blind a few years ago, I'd have thought an idiot or lunatic wrote it (but not lunatic59 lmao).

    But a few years ago we had maybe two classes, phones and phablets - and for a lot of us, really just one class - phones, and a lot of brand arguments.

    We still have the general phone class. Back in the 60s and 70s we had the UJM - the universal Japanese motorcycle, neither a chopper, a flat tracker or a dresser.

    I think that things like the S5 and Oppo (and 1+1) and etc etc are the that 4th class - UAP - Universal Android Phone.

    There. Perfectly authoritative and definitive view - because I'm on a work break where I have to play all authoritative and crap. :rofl: So the high tone of voice is just that, crosstalk, and nothing real.

    TL/DR - Android is all about choice.

    Now that we have 4 very clear class choices and three models perfecting 3 of those classes, this has to be the best year I've seen for Android in a LONG, LONG time.

    Every year we talk about game changers but for me personally, in retrospect, after each year's pixie dust(*) has worn off, I've looked back and said - "You know - not so much - the game hasn't changed like before."

    This time, it's different as far as I'm concerned.

    Really, really different.

    This year, we have real choices that transcend brand, OEM skin and marketing brainwashing among one or two classes.

    Yes, we had the M7 and the G2 last year. Yes, we've had a Note in the running for a while.

    But looking back, I'm finally able to put words on what I couldn't find in 2013 - those were practice rounds and we all knew it. Srsly, how many of you said to yourself what I did last year? Really HTC? BEATS?!? Again? And no optimized headphones included? Really LG? Hermetically sealed? Are you trying to be another HTC? Really Samsung? Less storage and more software on the S4? Really, are you committed to the Note?

    Call me crazy but that's why I think that this year is different.

    And it's why I stuck my nose in when I didn't pick the G3.

    Every year, every top model gets one of these threads. They're usually fun but neutral mods without the phone have to lurk to watch out for trolls.

    This time something unique happened - no trolls.

    That really proves to me that the new level of choice is real.

    And I could say that I wanted to intervene and calm buds down over some disagreements brewing. I could have actually sold that I guess. Everyone's used to that. Lmao

    But I actually got away with saying that banana creme pie is better than benchmarking and that's the other reason I'm posting - to let you all know that there was a method to my off-topic madness.

    If you reading this are like me, then the answer to the thread title and OP - why did you pick this phone over the other flagships - can only have one answer:

    Because there's nothing else TO pick - this defines the class and this is the class of choice.

    Never before have I been as truly excited for others who've made a different choice than mine.

    I've always respected everyone in my heart of hearts but not really excited (except for the rare cases here and there).

    But this time - I'm excited for you all, I really am.

    Someone finally made a class of phone to serve you exactly as well as mine serves me.

    And I'm still excited 6 weeks later so I think I know how you feel.

    So - is the G3 freaking cool or what?! :)

    (* pixie dust - that's actually in the Android build repository - but all credit to rushmore for the best new phone meme since the Evo would turn into a jet)
     
  25. chong67

    chong67 Android Expert

    There will be a G3 with Stylus coming. Go google it now.

    I prefer front speaker but side speaker like the Note 3 will be OK but definately not firing from the back.

    I like front speaker so when i Skype or WeChat it sound so much natural. I dont like earbuds as its cumbersome.
     

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