Don't know. Don't know, but all there is in the ROM that is "Rogers" is desktop wallpapers and a couple of annoying apps that are not even apps but rather wrapped web links. Once you root you can delete them. Theoretically. Practically you have to root to get on the phone a recovery image that lets you install new ROM. Rogers phone has recovery image that doesn't let you do it. Once you install the one that does let you do it, when you boot to Rogers ROM afterwords, Rogers ROM will overwrite your recovery image with their stinky one. You are at square one.