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  1. aqh

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    Alright so I had an HTC EVO 4G with stock gingerbread and I was able to get s-off and rooted with superuser using a guide from xda. I used the revolutionary method.

    I haven't done anything else like doing the nandroid thing. I've just used revolutionary to get s-off and then flashed superuser. Everything seems to have worked as explained in the guide but everything still looks the same to me. One of the things I wanted to do was get rid of bloatware but I still don't see where I have the option of deleting pre-loaded bloatware. Am I missing something?

    Help please!

    This is the guide I used if that helps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1228566
     

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    Welcome to the Forums!

    Now you have access to all of the root-only apps.

    Download titanium backup. That will allow you to uninstall any program you want and also to backup and important programs and data you wouldnt want to lose. That way if you do decide on flashing a custom ROM for speed and battery life improvements you will still have all of your data.


    Rooting is really only the first step. To get everything out of your phone You'll want a custom ROM and kernel. This will get you more battery life, faster running phone, hacked wifi hotspot so you dont have to pay the $30/month, ect. The list goes on and on.

    Check out the life after Root section of the rooting for dummies gingerbread sticky here.

    If you have any questions...... ask away we'll be glad to help
     
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    welcome to the forums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    i would start with this guide:
    http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...ooting-dummies-guide-gingerbread-edition.html.
    go to the after root section. it has a ton of info for life after rooting your phone.
     
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    Welcome to the foums! Hope you enjoy your stay :)

    Well, if you'd like to delete some of those pre-loaded bloatware from Sprint and HTC, you have two options:
    1. Download a new ROM. (Check the Rooting for Dummies sticky on this forum to learn about ROMs, rooting, kernels, etc.)
    2. Download one of the apps from the Market such as "Root Uninstaller" or "Titanium Backup". I highly recommend Titanium because it has more uses than just deleting stock apps. Once you've downloaded it, allow it SuperUser properties, etc. then go into Backup/Restore at the top of the page. Then click "Menu" and go to "Batch". You have two options, either go to "Freeze/Defrost" and select which app(s) you'd like to "delete". This is the preferred way to uninstall these apps. What it does is freeze the apps from being used and being accessed. You can also use the "Un-Install" function to delete these unwanted apps, but I wouldn't recommend it because you are a beginner and sometimes you may uninstall a much needed app and not be able to get it back if you need it. I only use this to delete apps like ones from Sprint such as their navigation app.

    If you want to delete through a new ROM, most ROMs come without the bloatware once they are flashed (installed). Read up on the ROMs before flashing them because some ROMs rarely do not have features like HDMI, front camera, or 4G. But most ROMs now have those unless they are old and outdated. I would highly recommend checking the bottom of my signature (or here) for a list of ROMs and kernels available for the Evo phone.

    There is so much more to do once rooted. You've made the right choice because you've unlocked your phone to its full potential. I would suggest browsing the internet and our "Evo 4G All Things Root" section and just see what threads there are about the cool new ROMs and kernels available. You can do so much now like wifi tethering for free (without paying Sprint $30 a month extra for the feature), 100% customization through ROMs, apps like CacheMate that allow you to delete all your app's cache with one click of a button, and much much more! To search for some of the cool, new, and unlocked root apps from the Market, I search using these key words "root access", "root", "super user", and "superuser". Searching the Market with these words usually will yield you some apps and give you some ideas as to what root can do for you as a user. Also search the internet through searches and search for lists like ones about "top 10 root apps for android" or something and they'll list some cool apps for root users and explain what they do in detail.

    Are you using Amon-Ra recovery or ClockWorkMod? I use Amon-Ra because I find it easier and better but if you prefer CWM, I would recommend downloading their app from the Market too called something like "ROM Manager". Even if you have another recovery like Amon-Ra, it's okay because you can still do some things but most is limited. Once you've downloaded this app, you will be able to flash ROMs and kernels through the app and it can take you directly to your recovery with the click of a button instead of you manually turning it off, rebooting, etc. You can also download ROMs through it and some versions of the app allow you to see user reviews of the ROMs as well as a complete list of their versions for each ROM.

    My personal top rooting apps that I use include:
    -ClockWorkMod ROM Manager (explained above)
    -CacheMate (deletes all app cache with the click of a button)
    -AdBlock (blocks ads from apps on your phone)
    -Root Uninstaller (freezes/removes stock apps as well as restoring them)
    -Root Explorer (allows you to search more areas of your phone instead of just the SD card's contents)
    -HDMwIn (allows full, 100% mirror of the HDMI to any HDMI device such as instead of just streaming media like from YouTube or your personal media library, you can now see EVERYTHING from your phone on your HDMI tv if connected)
    -Titanium (explained above)
    -ShootMe (not available on Market last I check a week ago but can be found online on other places; takes a screenshot (picture) or video of whatever you are doing on your phone)
    -wifi tethering/Sprint Hotspot hacked/etc. (allows wifi tethering to other devices; basically allows other devices that have wifi to pick up your phone's wifi signal and use it to gain internet access...basically makes your phone a wifi hotspot. Some apps are Barnacle, Wifi Tether, and more.)
    -Superuser (comes pre-installed on most rooted phones; allows security for root access apps so your phone will be protected yet still be controlled 100% by your)
    -WiMAX Notifier (allows a secondary LED on your Evo phone to be used for notifications; it is a bit tricky to get started but is nice once used)
    Some apps like Handcent do not require root access to be used for most of its features. But then they have some "advanced" features that can be used such as it being able to use the secondary LED on your phone. Some apps also work like this and are not generally advertised as having root access.

    If you have any questions, feel free to private message me or ask here or anywhere on our forums. This is one of the friendliest places to be :) Have fun.
     
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    Thanks for the replies.
    So far I've got my phone rooted and have amon-ra recovery.
    Currently running synergy rom.
    It's nice to look at but slow at times.
    Also removed carrieriq and all of that garbage.
    Haven't messed with kernels at all yet.

    This whole thing is a lot of fun; it's like a new
    phone every time I flash.
     
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    yep, just be forewarned that this could (will be) an addiction:eek:. and please do not blame me like some other members here do (you know who you are :D).

    also i would try mikg instead. my phone never really liked synergy.
     
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    and the doofus says (as always) try CM7... Im on the sony explod 4G iteration, with the tiamat kernel, and its flippin AWESOME!!!! Both fast and incredible battery life! Go launcher is also a good thing to try out... Great theme options, and fast as well... Oh, and beautiful widgets small home if you like the sense clock and weather thingy ;)
     
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    There's only one thing *to do*....Go and get your flash on!!!

    Congrats on rooting btw!
     
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    Say I noticed you are using the old Wimax notifier, I loved this program till the gingerbread ota screwed it up, I kept the file, and reloaded it after flashing MikG 2.6, I tested it and it works, how do I set it up to work with handcent? Cant quite seem to figure it out, thanks
     
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    I noticed that same thing with Synergy (at least the one I tried was slow). I prefer MikG, or if you want the full-on Sense 3 experience then you can try Mik3D. I run MikG myself -- it's a fantastic ROM.

    I also use GO Launcher EX as my launcher. It's free from the market (though you don't even need to be rooted to use it).
     
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    I just rooted mine tonight and it seemed to go fine but the Binary Updater says it can't find Busy Box. What is Busy Box and how do I get it?
     
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    Welcome to AF!!! Busybox is a collection of simple, but powerful, Linux utilities, that android doesn't come with by default. It is used by apps like MetaMorph and Titanium backup in order to do special operations.

    For more information on BusyBox, go here.

    To download BusyBox Installer, go here.
     
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    Sorry about the late reply. I already replied back to your message but to allow everyone to see what my response is in terms of the WiMax notifer, I haven't yet gotten it to work again after it worked for a few days. I tried switching up the settings and it doesn't work at all for me anymore and I can't remember which settings I had loaded previously. Take a look at my personal thread and the link in that thread that links to the original thread for the app. From one of those threads, you can ask others who use the app and could probably better help you. Those are the people who helped me. I liked it while I had it but it's a pain in the arse to get working lol good luck to you though.
     
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    Well here goes another long post... ;)

    AOSP - ROMs that are basically built from scratch. Generally, these ROMs will have problems that are individual than with other ROMs because of the programming. These are very nice ROMs for the user who wants some even more customized settings and generally these phones are faster. It is advised that you not visit a Sprint store or call in for help while on a rooted phone especially if it is running an AOSP ROM because Sprint is not likely to help you and in some cases will void your warranty if you have one through them.

    Sense - ROMs that are built on the same factory based ROM that came with your phone out of the box. Generally these ROMs are more stable but there are downsides such as currently on Gingerbread ROMs, we are unable to get good kernels like SBC that can charge and keep a battery life longer because HTC hasn't released the code yet which has made it near impossible for ROM developers to create kernels for the Sense ROMs such as SBC. Sense ROMs are good if you like rooted ROMs but want something that you can depend on a daily basis and not have to wake up tomorrow worrying about if your phone will power or or not in the morning. Sense ROMs generally also have all features working unlike some AOSP ROMs that will lack features such as 4G, HDMI, and front camera. I am currently on a Sense ROM because most of the AOSP ROMs that I have tried have acted very weirdly and I need a phone on the regular and I found myself having to power on and off lots. But I did get great battery usage and I miss that above all :(

    The ROMs that I tried are as follows:
    MIUI-it is a very nice AOSP ROM. If you like the look of the iDevices like the iPhone specifically, this is the ROM for you to try. It is one of the most creative ROMs that I have ever seen. One of the only and largest problems that I had with it was when I flashed a kernel and the screen wouldn't respond to touch. But that wasn't anything that a backup couldn't solve so I got it working that same day. I suspect that I flashed the wrong version of the kernel instead of the right one so it may have been my fault. MIUI had a great UI and was great for showing off to people especially iPhone users ;) It had some great built in ideas...my two favorite had to be the one that finds all .apks on your SD card (.apks are the files of apps that are saved to your SD card that you have downloaded from somewhere online or gotten from a friend, etc. but if you have Titanium, don't worry about this feature) and would allow you to install all of the .apks with the touch of a button and would do it in the background. The other thing I liked, which most ROMs have, is a Wifi/USB tethering system built into the ROM itself so you wouldn't have to download one from the Market and generally the ones that come with the ROMs are faster in my opinion. MIUI also had something unique that some users liked and others didn't that worked like the iPhone. Instead of an app drawer, all of your apps are located on the homescreen and each time you install a new app, it is automatically on your homescreen. You can have app folders to decrease the amount of screens that you have if you'd like but nothing I have found that allowed an app drawer. It is one of my favorites but sadly lacks 4G, HDMI, and front camera and has for a while and I suspect because the developer has so many different versions for so many different phones that the Evo 4G is one of the only 4G devices that it's on and it's not a top priority for him/her. All in all, it's cool and I find myself coming back to it every now and then.

    CyanogenMod 7-an AOSP ROM is very fast and with the right kernel can have outstanding battery performance, the likes of which I have never had on any other ROM. The speed of the system was pretty good too. The thing that made me switch was a huge problem where sometimes I would unlock the phone and was not able to use the touch screen very well. There is a whole thread on it that I started if you'd like to check it out and some other users said that they too had the problem. Some other CM7 users said that they didn't have any such problems so it may be for only some phones or may happen only because of certain things that we each did on the phones. You can never really tell. My theory is that it overheated and just needed a reboot every now and then that would fix it along. It has some very unique features that the developer had designed into it that make it one of the best ROMs out for the Evo 4G. I have heard that it is one of the only ROMs out there that supports a certain type of Bluetooth keyboard. Last time that I was on the ROM, all features seemed to work including 4G, front camera, and HDMI.

    MikG-a Sense ROM and it's pretty nice and fast for a Sense ROM. It is the ROM that I am currently on. Sometimes while playing a game like Angry Birds, the phone will overheat and randomly restart. Sometimes, rarely, while I am on the phone, it will restart too. When it restarts, it has an infinite reboot problem that some other users are claiming happens to their phones too. Again, I have a thread that I started that you are free to check out for yourself lol. Some users have not seen any of that on their MikG ROM versions though so it may be fixed in some versions or may be individual. 4G, HDMI, and front camera work as do most other features. It has a hacked Sprint Wifi Hotspot app that I prefer to most AOSP ROMs that have them built into the ROM. The reason being is that I have seen faster speeds through the hacked Sprint app than I have with any other means of Wifi tethering. For USB and Bluetooth tethering, I am unsure of the speeds. With Sense ROMs like this, I love the fact that it is pretty reliable. I have that problem under control now and restart my phone at least once every day and rarely play games like Angry Birds :( and try to have more patience if the phone seems to not be responsive which helps avoid an infinite reboot usually. I miss battery life because like many other Sense users, I am waiting on HTC to release the code so we can have SBC kernels which hasn't happened yet. All in all, the ROM is one of my favorites and one that I have kept for a few weeks now and loving.

    I have tried other ROMs but these are the ones that I stuck with mostly and continuously go back to now and then.

    To get an idea of how a ROM looks, I search to find its thread on XDA Forums or here if a thread exists or search Google for the ROM if it might be located on its own website. If you'd like to get a glimpse of what each ROM looks like, most threads and websites will have screenshots listed. If they do not provide screenshots, try using Google Image Search to see what screenshots are there.

    If you'd like to know about individual ROMs, feel free to ask away on this forum :)

    As for kernels, I would recommend getting the Kernel Manager Lite app from the Market as ocnbrze had suggested to me a week ago :) It is very good for beginners who flash kernels and will help you with just about any question like "What is SBC? HAVS?..." in their FAQ section. It will also give you ratings of kernels from other users of the kernel, tell you which Android version it is for (2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.2, etc.) as well as if the kernel is specific to Sense or AOSP. Be very careful to choose the right kernel for your phone and make absolute sure to backup before flashing any kernel as it can be easy as a beginner to screw up some things on your phone. Be sure that you have the right version that you wanted, whether SBC, HAVS, or none or other, and also that it is for Sense or AOSP, and that it is for your version of your current ROM which most current, up to date ROMs have Gingerbread which will be 2.3.3 which you can find in your Settings>About Phone>Hardware/Firmware. I would recommend that if you do use this app, be sure to flash through your Recovery yourself and not let the app do it for you so that you can be sure that you are in control of the process and that you can backup your current ROM yourself.

    It is an addiction and you will learn so much in so little time and coming here will increase that learning experience. Thanks to people like everyone on this thread, I have learned TONS about the rooting process and how to make my phone, MY phone and as fast and stable as possible. Don't be afraid to ask any of us any questions you may have :)

    P.S. The best time to try out new ROMs and kernels is best when you are on break from the important things in your life. That way that if anything happens, you will have a computer in front of you for help and can reflash/restore or whatever if necessary. I do most of my flashing and experimenting over the weekends and off work. Don't be afraid to back up information on the regular too. Often times ROMs can act very strangely and you have lost all information. Going into Titanium and backing up on the regular is a good idea as going into Recovery and backing up the entire ROM from time to time. The only problem with making backups on the Recovery is that it takes up quite a bit of space on your SD card so be prepared to lose some space if you plan to do that. Most people, and this is an excellent idea, back up their backups from Recovery and other information on their SD card directly to their computer or another storage device, that way in case if anything happens to the SD card like it formats or something, you'll still have your information handy.
     
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