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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by remanifest, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. Dj715

    Dj715 Lurker

    I'm currently stuck on the step where i need to unlock bootloader. I am in bootloader (i have the white screen), but when I type in "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" in the command, its just says ""<waiting for device> " I'm sure my device is connected to the computer because I used the command to put it into bootloader, so i don't think the problem is the driver or that my phone isn't connected to the computer. Can someone please help me out? thanks in advance for any suggestions!

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  2. O1i

    O1i Lurker

    Im have problems during the S-Off procedure - while im running the controlbear execution, everything's going swimmingly, the phone reboots to the bootloader page, the cmd says a few things, but then I start getting messages saying 'failed to start daemon' etc... with a count-down of 60, by which time it gives up. Where have I gone wrong and what do I do!? Thank you!
  3. O1i

    O1i Lurker

    Just noticed its the exact same problem to 'MArcelloMayhem' a few posts up.
    Would really appreciate it if someone could help out, thanks again!
    FYI, I have no other programs running nor can I find the adb process in the task manager
  4. OakIris

    OakIris Member

    I haven't even begun the procedure yet but am concerned about downloading the necessary files. I clicked on the first one in the Step one, S-off section (for adding the "open command window" to the right click menu) and the Dev-Host site wants me to download some sort of HD flash player; says it is recommended, free, but won't let me do anything until I download it - hitting the cancel button does nothing. This looks like some sort of malware to me. I checked the next file that needs to be downloaded; Dev-Host won't let me download it either, says I need to "Update my Player Downloader" (whatever that is.)

    Why do I need some sort of video player in order to download a file? This makes no sense...

    I have the latest Adobe Flash plug-in installed; my OS is Windows 7 64-bit.

    I have glanced through this thread and find nothing mentioned about this flash player "free" download. Am I being overly cautious?!? I just want to download remanifest's files so I can root my phone, not put a bunch of crap on my computer!

  5. Brian706

    Brian706 I like turtles!

    No, don't download that stuff. It's just advertisements I assume on the download page. I'm mobile at the moment but will take a peak when I get back to the pc.
  6. OakIris

    OakIris Member

    Thank you, Brian. I think I have it figured out - I was clicking on the download button closest to the file description window and it was the wrong one. lol and DOH! :eek:

    Hope this is not a sign of things to come with my first attempt to root a phone!

  7. Brian706

    Brian706 I like turtles!

    Glad you got it!! Good luck! :) This was my first phone to root as well, but it sure taught me a lot!!
  8. OakIris

    OakIris Member

    I reached the end of step 2; here are the instructions:
    So I selected recovery, and a 4EXT Recovery screen came up warning me that "recovery is in safe mode this is because the following partition is not accessible "cache." Please enter the Wipe menu and wipe cache!...." I ignored this, perhaps foolishly, and told it to reboot anyway.

    Now the phone seems to be stuck in the old reboot loop - the white screen HTC comes up for a few seconds, then goes away, comes back....etc. I was able to get back into 4EXT and selected recovery again; back to bootloop...

    Is there a fix for this?

  9. Brian706

    Brian706 I like turtles!

    Don't worry about the cache thing, that's not the cause of your bootloop. Though, before flashing any new rom, you should wipe everything. Just use the wipe all partitions except sd card option.

    What rom are you trying to flash? Is it a jellybean rom? The most likely cause of the bootloop is that you wiped the /system partition and didn't flash a rom or you flashed a rom that's incompatible with your hboot version.

    If you are trying to flash a jellybean rom, you will need to downgrade your hboot. If your issue was that you didn't flash a rom after wiping, then that's easy, just flash a rom. :)

    Only downgrade your hboot if necessary, so don't do this if you are wanting to use an ICS/stock based rom.

    For jellybean roms, download jb_1.50.5050 hboot from this post: http://androidforums.com/cdma-evo-3...hboot-firmware-all-downloads.html#post5210029

    Then follow these instructions step by step to allow yourself to downgrade without getting stuck in yet another bootloop situation. Read through it first, take not of the special instructions at the bottom. You'll want to follow that part.

    Edit: Since you can't boot up, it's going to be a little different for you. When you get to the part where I have you boot directly into recovery, do this instead:

    Option 1:
    Use card reader to remove the PG86IMG.zip from the sd card, then boot into the bootloader and choose recovery.

    Option 2: (Before starting any of the steps)
    Wipe everything and flash a working rom. (Harmonia or similar) Then follow the instructions normally.

    Option 3:
    -remove sd card
    -return battery
    -replace back cover
    -boot into bootloader
    -choose recovery
    -remove back cover
    -plug into charger
    -remove battery
    -replace sd card
    -replace battery
    -unplug from charger
    -replace back cover
    -wipe everything/flash rom from sd card
  10. OakIris

    OakIris Member

    I am thoroughly confused now, and getting quite discouraged. Seems to be my state for the last two days.

    First of all, I was not trying to flash a ROM, I hadn't even gotten to that point yet, I was just trying to finish the steps after the S-off wire trick. When 4EXT was supposed to go into Recovery was when I got the error message about clearing the cache. I was planning to use the Harmonia ROM but at this point I don't know if I will ever get there!

    When I received no response here - guess I should have been more patient - I started going through the Preliminary steps listed for when you are stuck in a bootloop. I finally got through step three, but at the fastboot step it said the phone, or whatever (can't remember exactly) was already locked. I then tried to run the ROM Update Utility. I have no idea if it worked; the install wizard kept going into no response mode and then the next time I looked the install wizard window was no longer there, I have no idea what if anything it did. My phone screen still shows it is on the 4EXT recovery screen.

    What, if anything, can I do now?

  11. adamhos1234

    adamhos1234 Android Expert

    What ROM were you on?
    If you were stock, and you changed hboot to 1.50, which is probably where you at, it will bootloop

    Best solution is to wipe everything
    Reboot recovery
    Wipe everything again
    Flash harmonia
    Reboot system

    Should boot
    Harmonia will boot on any hboot.
    To know what hboot you are, you need to boot into bootloader

    Hope that helps
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  12. adamhos1234

    adamhos1234 Android Expert

    You got the error message in 4ext because you changed your hboot
  13. OakIris

    OakIris Member

    Thank you for your response, adamhos.

    I was on whatever ROM that came with the phone. I was just trying to get S-Off and then was planning to go on to the next step of flashing the Harmonia ROM. I am on HBOOT 1.50.5050, which is where the S-Off instructions left me - that is which version of HBOOT was supposed to be there according to the instructions. Why would they have you end up with a bootloop, or was that caused because 4EXT apparently screwed up somehow?

    And how do I flash the ROM if the phone won't boot up? (You can see how lost I am....:eek: )

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  14. adamhos1234

    adamhos1234 Android Expert

    No problem everything will be fine

    Pull battery
    Put it back in
    Hold volume down and press power
    Scroll to recovery with volume button
    Select with power
    That should take you to 4ext

    Now if you haven't downloaded harmonia, do it now on your PC
    Then connect your phone USB
    In 4ext select USB mass storage
    Transfer harmonia to your phone

    Go back to the main menu
    Select wipe
    Wipe all
    Back to main menu
    Install from SD
    Find harmonia and accept
    When its done, reboot
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  15. OakIris

    OakIris Member

    I have Harmonia (the .zip file) on my SD card. In 4EXT there is no option to "wipe all" - there is wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe cache + davlik, etc. Do I select everything that says "wipe"?

  16. adamhos1234

    adamhos1234 Android Expert

    I personally use wipe everything (except SD)
    Then wipe cache and dalvik

    The wipe everything should suffice
  17. adamhos1234

    adamhos1234 Android Expert

    You want to ultimately wipe


    Just don't wipe sd
  18. OakIris

    OakIris Member

    Sorry to be so literal, but there is no entry that says "wipe everything", or "wipe all"..... :thinking: Do you mean "wipe data?"

  19. adamhos1234

    adamhos1234 Android Expert

    Hmm, must be an older version

    Click everyone EXCEPT SD
  20. OakIris

    OakIris Member

    Ahh, so maybe you mean "format all partitions (except SD card)"?
  21. adamhos1234

    adamhos1234 Android Expert

    Sorry...don't have all the terms memorized!!! Lol
  22. OakIris

    OakIris Member

    It worked! It worked! It worked!

    A clarification needs to be added at the end of the S-Off instructions for dummies like me! There should be something telling folks to ignore the cache warning that 4EXT gives, and also that you should now go directly into the flashing ROM steps - DO NOT REBOOT YOUR PHONE, because otherwise, since the stock ROM is not compatible with the version of HBOOT that is now on your phone, you will end up in a bootloop if you try to do a reboot.

    What I did instead was reboot the phone after completing the S-Off steps; I did so because I decided that doing the S-Off was enough for one day and I had planned to wait until today to flash the ROM. In hindsight this was obviously a bad idea, but nothing in the S-Off instructions warned about this so I had no idea that a bootloop would be the result.

    This was my first attempt at S-Off and rooting a phone; I am sure that more experienced folks knew to read between the lines and avoided the difficulties I ran into!

    Thank you so much for your help, Brian and Adam, and thank you very much indeed for putting the guide together, remanifest.

    Now to see what I can do with my "new" phone!

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  23. adamhos1234

    adamhos1234 Android Expert

    Happy flashing!!
    Don't forget to backup in 4ext..it can be the difference in a quick fix or a big headache
    FYI you can flash jelly bean too!
    Sprint ROMs will work as well, however a little more work needs to be done to get MMS working, but its a walk in the park
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  24. OakIris

    OakIris Member

    Some "after-root" questions:

    1) I don't see that it would do any harm to leave it on, but is there any reason that you should turn USB debugging back off?

    2) Are you supposed to relock the bootloader? (Not that I know how to do that, lol )

    3) I know that HTC OTA updates need to be avoided (is it likely that there will be anymore of these for this phone?) when your phone is rooted, but should you do a profile and PRL update?

    I didn't see anything in the guide or following discussions about these things - please forgive me if I missed the references. :)

    Also, slightly off topic, is there an updated "tried and true" listing of apps that can be safely removed from a rooted phone? I know most of the bloatware was removed by Leslie Ann (Harmonia) but are there still a few things that can be deleted safely?

  25. Brian706

    Brian706 I like turtles!

    1. It could potentially be a safety concern if your device is lost or stolen but I leave mine on all the time. If you use android device manager or similar, you could remotely wipe data if your device is stolen, which would not leave the thief with any data to get their hands on.

    2. Relocking is completely optional. The wire trick does actually lock the bootloader though so you should be locked. I like to leave mine unlocked as it gives you more options for recovering your phone in a sticky situation, however with the JuopunutBear hboot you installed it does not matter. That hboot enables the same extra fastboot commands that an unlocked stock bootloader would give you.

    3. Doubtful that any new updates will be available. If there are though you will still be able to reap the benefits of the update while rooted. Someone will make it available for root users. Updating profile and PRL can still be beneficial and is still okay to do.

    I haven't seen a list of apps for this device like I have with others. My advice would be this if you're going to mess with system apps:
    Make a nandroid backup via recovery beforehand. Rather than delete apps, you can "freeze" them using an app like titanium backup or my backup. This allows for much easier restore if necessary. It basically completely disables the app. It will never run. However, if you're looking to free up space, deleting would be the way to go.

    Once again always make a backup before messing with system files. If you run into problems you can easily restore your backup. With no backup you'll have to reflash your rom and start from scratch.
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