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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Wilkas, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
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    By the way SD, the very first Android phone, the G1, was made by HTC, as well as the first Nexus.

    Hopefully that can help take away that Windows taste you get. :)
     

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  2. AntimonyER

    AntimonyER CHANGED FROM AF ADDICT MIKESTONY

    There is a rumor of the Droid DNA plus... But things are pretty cloudy on that front.
     
  3. Granite1

    Granite1 Zercron Encrusted Tweezer

    Hmmm, I really like my LTEvo, but the One looks enticing.....

    I'll have to wait and see how this one turns out.

    I have an upgrade waiting..... :D
     
  4. Speed Daemon

    Speed Daemon Android Expert

    It was a great show, and the phone was pretty cool, at least on TV. It's not like I'd carry a grudge against HTC just because they sold Windows phones. Come to think of it, that was probably one of the first TV shows to use blatant product placement, and it didn't bother me one bit. :dontknow:
     
  5. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
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    To me the only mobile phones that have have ever mattered on TV shows are the communicator from the original Star Trek and the Globalcomm from Earth Final Conflict.

    People talk about flexible, fold-out screens like they're still going to come from Samsung or Apple first, but a working model was already shown something like 3 years ago.

    Now that Samsung has almost released gestures in the air (something else demonstrated almost 3 years ago), put that with the flexible screen and the Globalcomm is nearly here.

    I still require humanoid aliens, a replicator, a transporter and a Mk II phaser.

    I expect the last 3 to run Android and not have locked bootloaders.
     
  6. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Android Expert

    Not a new idea and certainly not surprising at all.

    A few local business concerns have resorted to this behaviour in the past and it seems likely that it is more common than not. I know of one "publisher" that deletes any bad news posted about their company in their user forums. This is why you should never believe anything you read online; Trust but Verify, as Ron once said.

    I know HTC makes products every bit as good as Samsung.
     
  7. Joelgp83

    Joelgp83 Android Enthusiast

    But, but, but.......they use LCARS...... or is that just future-Android?! :D
     
  8. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
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    Library Computer Access and Retrieval System - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki

    They called it that because the Temporal First Directive didn't allow them to get a proper copyright license. Disgusted, Dr. Noonian Soong decided to name his humaniform robot after the term used by mathematicians and computer scientists. (Actually, the whole project was a lark, he completed it expecting to copyright troll the entire galaxy and get rich. He originally sought to also cash in on the confusion between the Star Trek and multiple Asimov-series lore, another failure, because he neglected to take into account that you can't copyright proper names.)

    So far as we know, Noonian Soong did not employ people to blog for his cause.

    Hope this helps!
     
  9. sfbloodbrother

    sfbloodbrother Extreme Android User

    Samsung once said that they want other companies to innovate, then they try to put down other companies away by making bad reviews? Why are companies only thinking of money? When will the time come we have a company that doesn't care about making money, but cares about pushing us into the future? We are all smart people, we can create unbelieveable things, but if we only do it for money, and not to make the world a better place, then we will take so much longer to make it into the new generation.
     
  10. nickdalzell

    nickdalzell Android Expert

    Last I checked, HTC still makes Windows Phones.

    Btw businesses ceased being the Mayberry-like 'care about the customer' types after the 'global economy' took over manufacturing and outsourcing to some Asian slave labor became the norm. It's a shame, really
     
  11. omnius

    omnius Android Enthusiast

    I'm not the average consumer that most marketing departments target. I'm really into my tech, bordering on obsessive. I research my gadget purchases for months before committing. I keep a constant watch on devices most people seldom ever hear about. One thing that's often puzzled me is HOW Samsung managed such an unusually large lead over every other manufacturer except Apple. I mean aside from the obvious marketing. Another puzzling thing was why it got uptalked so often by the "public" on tech news sites, social media, and store reps. It's not like they're paid to. Right?

    I'm not slamming the product. You can't achieve that success on marketing alone, you still have to make a decent product. Key word: decent. This is why I was puzzled. Samsung's competitors make good products too. There's nothing vastly superior about Samsung devices that would be proportionate to their lead in sales and market share, even when you factor in "usual" marketing methods.

    CNN appears to have turned over a rock and found something about Samsung's marketing methods underneath. Something Samsung came close to but not quite admitting. What are your thoughts? Do you think these kinds of practices should fall under antitrust laws or do you believe all is fair in retail war?

    Here is the first article:

    http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/04/20/apple-samsung-dirty-tricks/

    This is the followup where they comment on the suspicious activities they discovered in the reaction to the original:

    http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/04/21/apple-samsung-agent-provocateurs/#respond
     
  12. SiempreTuna

    SiempreTuna Android Expert

    It does seem kinda strange however, I think what people may be forgetting is that the other droid makers did kinda drop the ball over a period of maybe 18 months: LG, Motorola, Sony et al were making phones that simply weren't up to snuff technically. HTC did make some pretty good phones but they got lost in the flood of pretty average phones that they were also making.

    During that period, Samsung took full advantage. Not only did they make the most of being the Nexus manufacturer, but they also managed to produce other pretty decent, non-Nexus phones. Personally, I never really liked their build quality, but even that improved with the SIII (arguably also the SII).

    Samsung also got lucky with the timing: it was over this period that Android started to really capture the phone buying public's attention. Hardly surprising people conflate Android and Samsung if Samsung are the stand out manufacturer at the moment they become aware of Android.

    Add all of this to some very, very aggressive pricing to the networks, heavy marketing and - even ignoring any alleged dodgy practices - you start to see how they managed to achieve such dominance of the mindset and the market.
     
  13. bluebayou

    bluebayou Well-Known Member

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