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Discussion in 'Android Lounge' started by jaydee77ca, Dec 23, 2011.

  1. jaydee77ca

    jaydee77ca Well-Known Member
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  2. Technipages

    Technipages Member

    Gee. I had heard it was possible that even the Stratosphere may get an ICS update. Really unbelievable they would do this to the Galaxy S line.

    Looks like I'm going to just wait for the Droid 4.

  3. chanchan05

    chanchan05 The Doctor

    Well the Galaxy S is indeed almost over 18months, and the manufacturers and Google have agreements for updates to last officially at least 18months. It was released officially June 2010, and if you know how to count (unlike the author of that blog), its already past 18months. The Galaxy S2 already was confirmed for update by Samsung itself, so that's no biggie. Just buy a phone every two years and you're always sure to get an update.

    However Samsung's claim that S1's hardware is not powerful enough to run ICS+Tw may be a problem for the lower end phones. However I don't see not getting ICS as a turn off.
  4. dan330

    dan330 Extreme Android User

    how many updates of android did the Galaxy S get? it was released with Froyo.. and then got GB.. right? so 1 upgarde?

    that sucks!!! samsung!!! you can do better!!!
    epic got 2 updates...

    what if the EVO 3D with lower hardware.. with the heavy memory hog Sense.. get an update to ICS with the new Sense!
  5. karandpr

    karandpr Android Expert

    @Dan 330
    It was released with eclair and got two updates Froyo and Gingerbread
    and EVO 3D is a Dual Core ,Galaxy S is a mono core .:thinking:

    Galaxy S2 will be receiving ICS and the preliminary alpha build has already leaked out .\\

    It's actually amusing to see how Galaxy S2 and Galaxy S are confused by "tech bloggers " :rolleyes:
  6. dan330

    dan330 Extreme Android User

    yeah.. you are right.. it is late.. I am confused.

    Galaxy S is the Samsung EPIC... = EVO

    then.. that is no suprise to see the GS not get any more updates .. officially.

    glad I am rooted.. I am very confident that my EVO will see ICS.. and i am pretty sure so will the GS.
  7. chanchan05

    chanchan05 The Doctor

    Another thing, it doesn't matter how many updates the Galaxy S got, the agreement was 18months, and the Galaxy S was running the latest update available within those 18months. If we could check dates, ICS was released for update at over 18months after the SGS1, so Samsung has no more obligation, agreement to Google honored, and anybody who is disappointed can suck it and root their phones or buy a new one. Some people tend to think that the stuff they buy now will last them forever, which they don't. If we're talking top of the line stuff, phones get outdated by around 2 years after bought, laptops by 5 years, and PC's in around 5 years too.
  8. Shocky

    Shocky Android Expert

    It was released with Eclair, it's had quite a few updates but most have minor changes.

    Samsung might change their mind but they have to stop updating them at some point, I'm quite happy for them to stop updating the Galaxy S, they need to focus on the Galaxy S II and upcoming Galaxy S III. :D

    Also Galaxy S was released June 2010, Evo 3D was released July 2011. Compare the Galaxy S to phones released around that peroid like the HTC Desire. Will the HTC Desire be getting ICS?
  9. Samsung want you to see your phone as a disposable comodity, because they're all about rapid product cycling and staying at the leading edge of the market.
    One function of rushing to be first to market is releasing immature product.
    And all their resources are focused on developing new product rather than refining and updating existing and older lines.
    I've tried with Samsung (with one of their top-end Symbian phones and the SGS2 which I'm now flogging) - but their ergonomics, build quality and general user experience are not for the discerning.
    It's fine for those who seek neither refinement nor taste - but for my money, they're just box-tickers rather than serious device-makers.
    I'll NEVER buy another Samsung device for as long as they continue to ship out the cheesy tat they do.
  10. Shocky

    Shocky Android Expert

    Cheesy tat which has sold more than 30 million and won multiple awards, yes clearly Samsung are doing something wrong here. :thinking:

    It's a testament to Samsung that the Galaxy S is still even compared to phones released this year, you can moan about them all you want but the Galaxy S has outlasted everything released around the same period and you call it tat? Please, who do you think you
  11. Not trying to kid anyone.
    It's a fact that next to HTC, Sony, Apple (indeed, most other manuf.s) Samsung just make cheesy tat.
    I'd have thought it was pretty simple : - if you can't bear to hear such observations, just buy another brand.
  12. Shocky

    Shocky Android Expert

    No, it's your opinion which isnt really worth much. ;)
  13. Well, judging by your evident indignation, it clearly matters to you.
    Or is it the implication that in buying their tat, you may be a little short on discernment ?
  14. chanchan05

    chanchan05 The Doctor

    Cheesy tat? When the SGS2 by and large has the best hardware combination on any device to date? Except perhaps the Galaxy Note, but hey that's Samsung too. The only thing that can come closest to rival it that's not Samsung is the Sensation XE in terms of pure computing power, but HTC Sense is even a bigger hog on resources than TouchWiz is.

    I don't understand what can they be doing wrong? :D
  15. SGS2 screen : appalling
    SGS2 buttoning : crud
    Touchwiz : crap
    Video performance next to others : - unsmooth
    Industrial design : what industrial design ?

    Now, you either don't see any of that ... or you do, but it doesn't matter to you.
    Either way, the fact that it doesn't matter, more or less illustrates my point.
  16. chanchan05

    chanchan05 The Doctor

    SGS2 appalling? Whatever do you mean? I love the AMOLED screen, better than any LCD screen HTC has to offer IMO. I don't see what you don't like about it.

    Buttoning? There's 3 buttons at the button instead of four, so, big deal?

    Touchwiz - for the record, I've played around with a Desire S, and well, I prefer TW over Sense.

    Industrial design - what? It looks simple enough

    Basically everything you mentioned does not make SGS2 or anything Samsung makes as bad, instead they just go against your preferences. Seems like the perfect device for you would be an SGS2 (killer internal hardware) running and HTC Sense ROM. LOL.

    In analogy, its like you're saying Mexican food is crap because its spicy and you hate spicy food, while others can't understand when they find spicy food to their liking.
  17. Shocky

    Shocky Android Expert

    Screen is one of the best available, only really bettered by the screen on the Galaxy Nexus which is also made by Samsung, OLED screens have infinite contrast and near perfect viewing angles.

  18. chanchan05

    chanchan05 The Doctor

    To add to Shocky, I almost forgot, most anyone can tell you that Stock Player vs Stock Player alone among manufacturers, the Samsung Player has the most compatible formats.
  20. You've clearly bought into all the hype - not consciously, but because your discernment threshold is too high to allow you to see any difference ... much less to bother you in any way.
    No offence intended, but it always was and always will be the case that the undiscerning are easily pleased.
  21. Cryssie

    Cryssie Well-Known Member

    :D I'm sorry, you were saying?
  22. chanchan05

    chanchan05 The Doctor

    How can it be hype when I already handled both a Sensation and the Galaxy S2?

    1. The S2 screen is better. Period. Its brighter, the colors and contrast are better.
    2. Buttons. As I've owned Samsung phones, I'm accustomed to the three button layout. I still dont see whats wrong with it.
    3. I tend to not really care about how the phone looks. If that was important I would have went for the Nokia Lumia, or an E7. They look better IMO than any existing Android phone.

    Again, you sound like someone who has a needless hate on Samsung, and yet cannot even provide a decent argument on how can the SGS2 be bad. Even HTC are trying to get SuperAMOLED screens for their phones because its better than any LCD screen, but they are unable to since Samsung is the main manufacturer of such screens, and HTC is always unable to acquire enough screens to justify making a phone model with that. There was a debacle early on with the original Desire which they seem to not want to repeat.

    It seems you keep on saying we can't tell any difference, but yes we can, we can tell how easily the SGS2 is better than other phones, which you wont accept for some weird Samsung hate. Pardon me, but since you aren't able to give any concrete reason as to why the SGS2 is bad while we give concrete reasons as to why its so good, and based on experience of handling it as well, you sound like a generic hater who just hates for no reason. You just keep on saying that its bad for no reason whatsoever apart from it goes against your personal preferences.
  23. Granite1

    Granite1 Zercron Encrusted Tweezer

    I believe for the sake of argument, it really is user preference.
    I haven't owned a Samsung android phone yet, so I won't bother to try to give an opinion.
    Now I do own an EVO 4G which will never see another update, and I'm not bothered a bit by this. It has reached the end of life status and rightly so, it's getting old. No company can be expected to provide updates for every phone it produces indefinately, they'd go bankrupt!

    Once again it all boils down to personal preference, arguing if Samsung phones are crap is a moot point. Opinion arguments can never be won by either party. ;) :)

    Merry Christmas everyone!! :D
  24. dan330

    dan330 Extreme Android User

    it is my opinion that...

    everyone else is wrong
    Granite1 likes this.
  25. Shocky

    Shocky Android Expert

    I think we both know what he is, but for some bizarre reason we can
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