Root Screen off. Still awake.

Mexjoker

I'm Not Real, Doris!
So my screen if off but my phone is still awake. I know its an apply. At first I thought it was "bomb that task" so disabled it but that wasn't it. The only app that I know is running is JuiceDefender. Anyone know of an app that can tell me what's keeping my phone awake?
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LDrifta

No Stranger 2 Danger
im sure that un-needed anti virus is something to do with it.. lol seriously has anyone ever got a virus on their phone? i've never seen it happen before lol

EDIT: o wait... lol what is that? is that an anti-virus or is that the icon for juice defender? (another app i never need to use) lol
 

SotaBoyz

Newbie
im sure that un-needed anti virus is something to do with it.. lol seriously has anyone ever got a virus on their phone? i've never seen it happen before lol
Android's are basically a soft version of a Linux computer, And if someone create's a virus for a Linux computer he is extremely smart.
 

LDrifta

No Stranger 2 Danger
Same here lol never happened to me and never used one. The best anti-virus is the owner.
k lol i just wasn't sure lol i looked like a shield so i just assumed it was some type of 'protector?' lol but uhhmmmm you dont have like location on or travel a lot through bad signal areas?.. do you have any extra syncing apps like fb? that thing is a killer!!! better off just making a bookmark on the browser lol screw that stupid fb app
 

Mexjoker

I'm Not Real, Doris!
Thread starter
Juicedefender and I never use GPS. I use flipster for Facebook but barely login anymore. Slices(twitter) and pulse news are the only ones I think that may be running. Let me uninstall them.
 

OptiC-ShotS

Android Enthusiast
its Juice defender. The only app i ever regretted to buy. That app works with turning all the data stuff off.. but it kills your phones battery so fast. made my phone die twice as fast. Get betterbattery and youll see. Juice defender has to be running all the time in order for it to work. and it works twice as hard when you put in your OWN settings. So i never bothered to use it ever again :) just use Data enable. Works like a charm :) the only battery saving app i use is LG optimizer and Set cpu.
 

Mexjoker

I'm Not Real, Doris!
Thread starter
But I'm a lazy 17yo!!!! D';

If it has to go it has to go! Well thanks you guys. :3 Will use what optic recommend and data widget. Weird though.. always used juice defender and it never happened hm.. Oh well. Things happen
 

Johnny Crapple

Android Expert
But I'm a lazy 17yo!!!! D';

If it has to go it has to go! Well thanks you guys. :3 Will use what optic recommend and data widget. Weird though.. always used juice defender and it never happened hm.. Oh well. Things happen

you gotta learn sometime :p

Sent from my typewriter.
 

OptiC-ShotS

Android Enthusiast
But I'm a lazy 17yo!!!! D';

If it has to go it has to go! Well thanks you guys. :3 Will use what optic recommend and data widget. Weird though.. always used juice defender and it never happened hm.. Oh well. Things happen

you can stil use JD but try making it do less work. like take away that thing where it turns off at a specific time and stuff(see if that helps). or maybe it was an update.
 

webwolf

Lurker
JD isn't a battery killer at all, personally I've tweaked a custom kernel to undervolt and underclock the CPU (-100 v and max clock 800. haven't noticed a single difference in the UI but the battery is lasting (2days 7hours 24seconds - 23% remaining)

I customize JD to ping sync every 2 hours, all sync apps are also set in their own config to sync every 2 hours.

before JD and the kernel tweak I was getting around a days usage. my phone is also fully asleep the vast majority of the time that the screen is off.

JD may be overtaxing your phone, but if it's set to extreme I would think it would disable everything when the screen is off...

get better battery stats to see what's nerfing your battery, it's on the market.

Also I've disabed WCDMA in the phone's settings, GPRS is slow as all hell, but WCDMA(3G, HSDPA...) thrashes your battery, unless FD is enabled on the network which apparently helps a lot. I use wifi at home, and generally don't need the data access other than the 2 hour sync window outside of home, so this works best for me.

you have to trade off usability with battery life with a smart phone, figure out what works for you, if you really need 3G speeds all day, then your battery won't last long, if you can live without it, then my options is a pretty good compromise.

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dozer5900

Member
JD isn't a battery killer at all, personally I've tweaked a custom kernel to undervolt and underclock the CPU (-100 v and max clock 800. haven't noticed a single difference in the UI but the battery is lasting (2days 7hours 24seconds - 23% remaining)

I customize JD to ping sync every 2 hours, all sync apps are also set in their own config to sync every 2 hours.

before JD and the kernel tweak I was getting around a days usage. my phone is also fully asleep the vast majority of the time that the screen is off.

JD may be overtaxing your phone, but if it's set to extreme I would think it would disable everything when the screen is off...

get better battery stats to see what's nerfing your battery, it's on the market.

Also I've disabed WCDMA in the phone's settings, GPRS is slow as all hell, but WCDMA(3G, HSDPA...) thrashes your battery, unless FD is enabled on the network which apparently helps a lot. I use wifi at home, and generally don't need the data access other than the 2 hour sync window outside of home, so this works best for me.

you have to trade off usability with battery life with a smart phone, figure out what works for you, if you really need 3G speeds all day, then your battery won't last long, if you can live without it, then my options is a pretty good compromise.

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Wow amazing. What ROM, Kernel & its setting, JD settings are you using. can't get passed 10 hrs.
 

webwolf

Lurker
Wow amazing. What ROM, Kernel & its setting, JD settings are you using. can't get passed 10 hrs.

Stock ROM, to be honest the ROM shouldn't make much difference, as long as you disable whatever services you don't need.

Kernels are a trial and error thing, find one that has a config app with it for the best result. but you might find one that works better for you than the one I use personally :) it takes some time, but once you've got the hang of tweaking android, you'll be able to gaffer any phone to have a decent battery life without losing daily driver functions.

What you're looking for, is that your CPU is throttled to the minimum usable state, so your UI doesn't suffer, but you're not wasting battery on clock power you'll never use.

Also you phone should be idle/asleep when your screen is off, unless it's sycning, everything that's set to sync, should sync at the same time. so set everything to the same sync schedule and then reboot, that way your phone should only wake up at the set intervals instead of every hour for one, and every 20 minutes for another etc...

Post your betterbatterystats log and I'll have a look at what's causing your wake locks.

Side note, is always make sure all your radios are disabled when your not using your phone, leaving Data/Wifi/Bluetooth/GPS on all the time will kill your battery, I prefer to use a power bar on the home screen to toggle things on when I need them.
 
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