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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by Hadron, Feb 21, 2016.

  1. sincere11105

    sincere11105 Newbie

    You're right. It is ridiculous. It still doesn't make sense why they wouldn't release a 64gb in the US


  2. Riche101

    Riche101 Android Enthusiast

    " I've read somewhere that Samsung decided not to implement Marshmallow's storage feature which virtually merges the device storage with the SD card. Official ;) reason for that is that they think most of their users will use the SD card for file transfer between devices. If you were to use the 6.0 feature that SD card becomes part of the system (I think). Source: ARS Technica."

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  3. Slug

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    The 64GB variant won't be available anywhere at launch. Only the 32GB is listed currently for pre-order on Samsung's website.

    As to why no 128GB option... lack of demand. We've got over a dozen 128GB iPhone 6S and five 128GB S6/S6 Edge sitting gathering dust in our stock safe 'cos nobody wants to pay the asking price(s). Every unsold handset is ultimately returned and generates a loss for the manufacturer.
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  4. rkkeller

    rkkeller Android Enthusiast

    I have an iPhone 6+ with 64gb of space and since release still have 25.5gb free and its not like I am not using it. I have 989 songs, 40 videos, 2026 photos and 87 apps.

    So I used 30gb in all this time and if you move all the songs, videos and photos to a sd card, I would have used maybe 10-15gb.

    I do have have 21 games out of the 87 apps and some are decent size like Mortal Kombat 1 gb, Rage HD over 1gb, Infinity Blade 3 2 gb, etc...

    I know some use their phones differently, but for the majority of people 32gb with external storage they should be fine.
    #29 rkkeller, Mar 2, 2016
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2016
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  5. twikoff

    twikoff Lurker

    i store all my images/videos on dropbox
    and dont really keep music on my phone..
    so have found my sdcards pretty much sit idle.. while my phone is constantly complaining about being out of internal storage...
    moving apps to the card typically seems worthless, because it always seems to leave the bulk of the app on the phone.. and increase the chances of crashes..
    now, i am going from 16gb internal on my S5 to 32gb internal on the S7.. so maybe that solves my issue.. but i was really looking forward to the adaptive storage features, and am very annoyed that its being blocked..
    i can understand wanting the system files to stay local on the phone for stability purposes.. but the card could have been stripped with the internal storage, without ever allowing critical system files from going to the card..
    #30 twikoff, Mar 2, 2016
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  6. Lennatron

    Lennatron Android Enthusiast

    Most sites reported that the S7s cannot move apps to the SD Card as it does not have adoptable storage, however today I read the opposite: http://www.droid-life.com/2016/03/01/galaxy-s7-system-storage-install-apps-sd/

    Droid Life has an actual Galaxy S7 and shows screenshots where you can see that apps can be moved to the SD card despite popular belief. A link to the article was tweeted by Phandroid writer, Chris Chavez so I believe it.

    Side-note: If someone can tell me how post a clickable Hyperlink instead of pasting the entire URL that would be great :)
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  7. KupKrazy

    KupKrazy Android Enthusiast

    I read this article too, and from those screen shots, it looks like it moves both app and data which would be great. The old way of moving apps to the SD card (non root) only involved the app and not the data, which was a big problem especially when games' bulk of space is in the data. I am interested in finding out more info on this and indeed if it's moving both app and data because that would be a decent alternative to adoptable storage.
  8. Snakeyeskm

    Snakeyeskm Android Expert

    The S5 allowed certain apps to be moved to the SD card and I used it whenever possible. That might be the same feature referenced in the article. That process is very different than the "adoptive storage" in marshmallow, where the SD card is totally integrated with internal memory and treated as such. I don't remember moving any games to the SD card but most PlayStation apps could be moved. If that feature is retained then there might be some relief from the 32 GB limitation. At forgotten about that once I got the Galaxy S6 edge.
    Old ferrousButt a.k.a. ironass a.k.a. rustybum will most probably know the technically proper answer.
  9. recDNA

    recDNA Android Enthusiast

    I would want the option. It would allow me to leave space in the internal drive. I have too many apps.
  10. KupKrazy

    KupKrazy Android Enthusiast

    The S4 had that as well, but it really only moved the app and not the app data (which is the bulk of the size oftentimes) and only on those apps that the developer allowed. From the screen prints on the S7 feature, it seems to say in those photos that it moves both app *and* data which would be really nice if that is what it did.
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  11. itsallgood

    itsallgood Android Expert

  12. Curtis1973

    Curtis1973 Android Expert

    I find it displeasing when any manufacturer changes things that I find useful. Like using my sd as I see fit without their changes that really hinder full use no matter your use choices. As for Sansung. Not a fan of their devices. Bought the Galaxy J3 and its always prompting crap when using the sd card. I dont need a nanny for my sd card. And then there is their changes to the apps thenselves like using .qmg vs .png as the default apps interfaces. Makes customizing and theming outside of their crap theme program a joke. I will be moving on from this device to another manufacturer completely.
  13. Slug

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  14. Riche101

    Riche101 Android Enthusiast

    Great news
  15. Snakeyeskm

    Snakeyeskm Android Expert

    It's like AT&T has not enabled this capability, unless I'm doing something wrong.
  16. itsallgood

    itsallgood Android Expert

    Check this out, you can move the entire app, and data, to the SD card. This is actually better then the feature that Android Marshmallow has. You rock Samsung.

    Edited: Just found out that when you update apps that are saved on the SD card, you have to go back into settings and save the update to SD card too.

    #41 itsallgood, Mar 10, 2016
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  17. itsallgood

    itsallgood Android Expert

    Ok. After doing a little digging around, the data files ARE NOT moved to SD card like I thought. (Even though it says it is). As a matter of fact, I can't even tell how much, if any, of the app is moved to the SD card. It would be nice if Samsung listed how much of the app is on the SD card, for each app you move. (Its like this on my S4) If you guys can figure this out, please let us know. Thanks.

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    #42 itsallgood, Mar 11, 2016
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  18. jason359

    jason359 Well-Known Member

    So now it's been out for a while, has anybody figured out how to move apps to the SD card?
  19. Snakeyeskm

    Snakeyeskm Android Expert

    Not all apps can be moved, however in the case of those that can be moved, most of the storage including most of the data will move to the SD card. The internal storage will retain reference to the app to enable execution and transfer to RAM from the SD card.

    I checked this using Application manager to identify the amount of internal storage usage and after transferring to the SD card the corresponding amount of external (SD) usage. I further used an Explorer app scroll through files and folders on internal storage and the SD card.

    To identify and move apps, go to Application manager and tap on each app. On the window that opens up tap on Storage. If that can be moved the next window will have a Storage used label and a box labeled CHANGE. Use that box to identify storage location. If the app cannot be moved that particular label will be mssing completely.

    Best of luck.
    #44 Snakeyeskm, Mar 14, 2016
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2016
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  20. jason359

    jason359 Well-Known Member

    Thank you.
  21. gulaman

    gulaman Newbie

    It's a cool feature. Worked pretty well on my HTC One M8. I didn't notice much if any performance degradation for apps that I installed on the SD card/adoptable storage. For large games, there was a slightly longer loading time when launching the app but no degradation during the game. I did have some problems though. Weirdly, I lost the ability to view my Google contacts! Since I sync all my contacts to my Google account, I basically lost all my contacts on that device. I did a factory reset, removed the adoptable storage feature and the Google contacts returned. I also noticed that when plugging the phone to my PC, Windows could not detect the adoptable storage, only the phone's storage so I couldn't transfer files directly to my PC from the SD card.
    I'm sure these bugs could be ironed out and it would be a very useful feature to have. 32gb does not go a long way these days.
  22. jason359

    jason359 Well-Known Member

    I have been trying to move the Fitbit app for the past few minutes and no luck. The option to move it is there, and I selected it and it goes to a screen that says it will take only a few minutes to move. Then, it just stays there. Nothing. I can close it and go back and check and the app hasn't moved. Any ideas?

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