It seems that people who are Rooted have more problems then those who are non rooted. Every Rom has an issue with it, i dont think there is one single rom that is issue free. Why waist the time? Please object if u feel different.
Root Seems to be more problems......
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I have been rooted for about 3 weeks now, and here is my take on it...
Yes, most roms have a quirk or 2, some r buggy as hell, but u r rooted, so who cares, flash another, till u find one that works for ya. Keep in mind... the stock gb ota was buggy as hell, it slowed my phone to a crawl, voice to text didnt work anymore, battery life was absolute garbage (compared to stock froyo) wifi N was disabled, and so on... I could prolly sit here for hours listing the bugs in the stock gb rom....
Now... there is some risk to rooting, such as bricking ur phone... and it CAN happen, I bricked mine a week ago... but, I was dumb, and tried flashing a radio, and didnt know what I was doing I have the insurance, however, and was under warranty... so new phone came in 2 days for free
basic rule of thumb = if ya dont know what ur doin...DONT...lol
The only disadvantage I can see to rooting, is the maintenence involved in keeping up to date... yes, u may have to check in once a week to see whats new, or worse... U WILL check in every hour to get the next flash fix...
To each their own I guess, but honestly.. non rooted sprint rom = buggy, bloated, and slow... rooted = endless possibilities
FWIW... I rooted, just so I could flash back to froyo... but... there r so many cool roms, that I have yet to go back to stock froyo....
Yes, most roms have a quirk or 2, some r buggy as hell, but u r rooted, so who cares, flash another, till u find one that works for ya. Keep in mind... the stock gb ota was buggy as hell, it slowed my phone to a crawl, voice to text didnt work anymore, battery life was absolute garbage (compared to stock froyo) wifi N was disabled, and so on... I could prolly sit here for hours listing the bugs in the stock gb rom....
Now... there is some risk to rooting, such as bricking ur phone... and it CAN happen, I bricked mine a week ago... but, I was dumb, and tried flashing a radio, and didnt know what I was doing I have the insurance, however, and was under warranty... so new phone came in 2 days for free
basic rule of thumb = if ya dont know what ur doin...DONT...lolThe only disadvantage I can see to rooting, is the maintenence involved in keeping up to date... yes, u may have to check in once a week to see whats new, or worse... U WILL check in every hour to get the next flash fix...
To each their own I guess, but honestly.. non rooted sprint rom = buggy, bloated, and slow... rooted = endless possibilities
FWIW... I rooted, just so I could flash back to froyo... but... there r so many cool roms, that I have yet to go back to stock froyo....
I've had more problems I could fix on my own since I rooted. Try to get anything fixed without a factory reset by a Sprint tech, forget it.
Some roms have bugs some don't. Just depends on what you as an individual want out of your phone.
I had a Hero before the EVO, I had major problems with it, you name it, it happened to me. Sprint didn't help at all, just kept resetting my phone. Once I rooted it, I didn't have to go to Sprint anymore. I could actually FIX the problem, not just start over.
Being rooted isn't just about loading cool stuff on your phone, its about having the freedom to do what you want with your phone when you want to.
Is rooting for everyone, nope. But if you want to challenge your mind and learn something new, then root it. I'm a highway construction worker, no computer science degree here, and I've learned how to mod and make themes.
Last but not least, for me anyway, its fun as Hell!
Try it out for a while, if you don't like it, you can always unroot and go back to stock. We'll help you learn all you need to know, and help you unroot if it isn't for you.
Not all roms are a final release and some are still a work in progress. That's why people respond to the developers, to give them insight if there is a bug or an issue.
Why waist my time? Try and get a solid response for your unrooted phone with Sprint. Most if not all of the developers will respond to issues quite quickly.
To be honest, I don't believe there are many issues at all with the most recent roms. I believe that a lot of issues with roms are more user error than anything. And I believe that the biggest issue is not wiping properly before flashing a new rom. There are so many variables from one person to the next and sometimes it's easy to troubleshoot a problem by starting from a full wipe, then moving forward
So to sum up my feeling on root, there is no way that I will ever have another Android phone and not be rooted, ever
As long as root can be achieved but why then would I buy that phone?
As far as rooting goes for me, the appeal really started with the custom recoveries. The fact that I can make a complete backup of my phone and place that on my computer for safe-keeping is pretty comforting to be honest. Even if something happens and it has to go back to Sprint, root new phone, flash recovery, move file and BAM, nand restore right back to where you were.
Also, flashing ROMs is like eating Lays chips, DEFINITELY not stopping at just one. There are so many cool tweaks and ways to improve performance that it's worth sorting through the BS to find something exceptional. You might just want to check into what other people find to be stable and reliable. Of course every phone is different, but it will give you a solid idea of what works and what doesn't.
Also, flashing ROMs is like eating Lays chips, DEFINITELY not stopping at just one. There are so many cool tweaks and ways to improve performance that it's worth sorting through the BS to find something exceptional. You might just want to check into what other people find to be stable and reliable. Of course every phone is different, but it will give you a solid idea of what works and what doesn't.
like everybody else has said before me, every rom will some issues, but then again so does the stock rom. i mean there was already now 2 updates since gingerbread came out for the evo. these are basically the fixes that gingerbread broke for a lot of people. so even the stock rom is not perfect. for those unrooted people, they are stuck with it. for us rooted can just move on to another rom.
take a look at the troubleshooting section. there are tons of people who are having issues with the stock rom and they can't troubleshoot very much. most if the time it is either doing a soft or a factory reset. and then its "did that work for you? no, then you need to go to sprint and get a refurbished evo."
be thankful that you are rooted. i am, thanx to this forum.
If you go with a stable rom, and use Amon RA 2.3, you won't encounter many problems. There are sometimes issues with a ROM that are known issues and posted along with download links. There are PLENTY of stable roms out there. MikG 2.5 is flawless as far as I'm concerned.
I think most issues are user error. It's almost maddening when I see posts about people flashing AOSP kernels on Sense ROMs or vice versa. If you mess with this stuff, and don't know what you're doing, then you need to ask and/or read before doing anything. Of course, that's why we're all here
I think most issues are user error. It's almost maddening when I see posts about people flashing AOSP kernels on Sense ROMs or vice versa. If you mess with this stuff, and don't know what you're doing, then you need to ask and/or read before doing anything. Of course, that's why we're all here
For me, rooting has little to do with ROM stability, but mostly everything to do with freedom to get the most out of my phone and Android as a whole. If anything, anyone on the fence regarding rooting should just root and run the stock rooted ROM at the very least. At least then you won't be limited to what Sprint allows you to do, and you'll have many more resources to help you troubleshoot the problems even a stock ROM has...
I'm not sure I can say much more then what everyone else has said, but for me I mostly like to have control over my phone. I am paying for it and should have the ability to do with it as I please.
The stock Evo before I rooted it was constantly crashing and having to restart, would chew threw my battery in half the time, and felt bland and uncustomizable. I'm running Mik3D and the only bugs that affect me is not using 4g and the camera at the same time. On stock every time I would close an app I would have to wait a minute or two for the phone to reload from crashing. I also have less lag on my phone with full Sense 3.0 then stock had.
Like Granite1 said, I'm a taxi driver not a computer science major, and the only problem or issue I've had with rooting is suddenly my phone is so much more enjoyable I can't leave it alone and my friends think I'm even more weird then before.
PS: I'm american(white) and speak english. I do not watch taxi cab confessions or cash cab, and you can only have my card if you tip well.
The stock Evo before I rooted it was constantly crashing and having to restart, would chew threw my battery in half the time, and felt bland and uncustomizable. I'm running Mik3D and the only bugs that affect me is not using 4g and the camera at the same time. On stock every time I would close an app I would have to wait a minute or two for the phone to reload from crashing. I also have less lag on my phone with full Sense 3.0 then stock had.
Like Granite1 said, I'm a taxi driver not a computer science major, and the only problem or issue I've had with rooting is suddenly my phone is so much more enjoyable I can't leave it alone and my friends think I'm even more weird then before.
PS: I'm american(white) and speak english. I do not watch taxi cab confessions or cash cab, and you can only have my card if you tip well.
so with the new OTA update out now, does that mean the devs have to find yet another exploit and come out with another revolutionary for the people that have the new update and want to root their phones??
someone chimed in that they accepted the ota and was able to gain root via revolutionary. i have yet to verify that is true or not. i believe that the latest ota upgraded the hboot from 2.16 to 2.17. from what another person posted. i have not seen much on xda about it yet. but in theory if you are planning to root your phone, you should not accept the ota. even if you are rooted you should not accept the ota.
i want proof....i need a picture or something of the recovery showing hboot 2.17 and S-OFF .....lol
Before revolutionary came out I saw a few peeps with the new 2.16 hboot and s-off. They accepted the update with root and somehow ended up with S-off and the 2.16 hboot. I really dont know how it even worked with a custom recovery.
Before revolutionary came out I saw a few peeps with the new 2.16 hboot and s-off. They accepted the update with root and somehow ended up with S-off and the 2.16 hboot. I really dont know how it even worked with a custom recovery.
how in the heck?? ...either they are bs'n or maybe that was an exploit in itself where the update didnt do nothing to S-off??? somethin funny is goin on here lol
Root vs Non Root is like Windows VS Apple Vs Linux. They all have good and they all have bad. I really boils down to ones own preference's and what one is willing to go through to Have it Your Way I have rooted and love the fact that I can delete a program that I dont want, need , or even care about. I also like trying out new things. However Rooting is not for everyone. My Dad for instance doesn't want the phone for nothing more than to make calls. Not being able to keep up with facebook / email / etc... Would drive me up the wall.
The other great thing about Rooting is the Wonderful Community of People willing, ready, and able to help out. You do not get this kind of support anywhere else on earth. The Forums ROCK. ROOTED OR NOT We are always here to help you figure out your issues, why cause thats how we roll.
The other great thing about Rooting is the Wonderful Community of People willing, ready, and able to help out. You do not get this kind of support anywhere else on earth. The Forums ROCK. ROOTED OR NOT We are always here to help you figure out your issues, why cause thats how we roll.
nice plug... but i have the fever for the flavor of a pringle...
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!!!
If Granite1 wants more cowbell we should probably give him more cowbell
LMAO!!! one of my favorite skits from snl
giving and receiving cowbell?!?!?! i dont know if i wanna know what you guys are talking about lol.....hmmmm ok whats cowbell?? lol
MikG 2.5..... nuff said!
This ROM is SUPER stable and is my goto. I've been running it for weeks now and love it. Try it out you won't be sorry!!
[ROM] - [MikRoms] - [8/24/2011] - MikG v2.5 - Re-Engineered GB Sense 2.1 + 3.0 - xda-developers
This ROM is SUPER stable and is my goto. I've been running it for weeks now and love it. Try it out you won't be sorry!!
[ROM] - [MikRoms] - [8/24/2011] - MikG v2.5 - Re-Engineered GB Sense 2.1 + 3.0 - xda-developers
That's was a quote from a Saturday night live skit with Christopher Walken.
Look it up on tha you tubes.
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