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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by rafiki121, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. rafiki121

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    I got my seidio innocell battery last week and i think the battery isnt living up to its potential. I had it charged last night for about 10 hrs i unplugged it at 11:30 am within 1.5 hrs my battery life is at 86% and this is just on standby. I didnt do no text or talk on the phone. Should i send it back and get a new one or is there anything i can do thanks

    When charging through usb does it keep it charge even when its fully charged or does it stop charging and the battery is being used.
     

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  2. SouthernEvo

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    I would advise trying to charge the phone overnight with the phone turned off . I know with mine if I charge with the phone on it wont charge the battery that well for some reason . Also check to see if you might have something that is running around in the background draining charge . Also bare in mind charging through the usb is gonna be the slowest charge rate possible . I believe charging through the USB of a computer the phone throttles it down to 500mah so it wont pull to much power through a usb port . The wall charger charges at an advertised 1amp .
     
  3. JunBringer

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    I bought it as well and it doesn't fix the issue with that first 10-15% of battery life draining quickly, but let me assure you, once you get past that it drains very slowly. I used mine heavily all day (on my third day of having it) from 7am to right now, coming up on 1am and I'm at 59% and I overclock it, which uses more battery I'm sure.

    Plus after the first 5-6 charges it lasts even longer than it did on your first day, so I'm sure both of ours will get even better.
     
  4. mcmikecruz1

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    Pulling off the charger as soon as it turns green should fix that quick ten percent drain , I fully charge mine before I go too sleep for that reason , when I wake up I'll be at 96-97% , I use super power
     
  5. rafiki121

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    Am i suppose to discharge this battery all the way to 0% then charge it again to recalibrate it?
     
  6. JunBringer

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    No. From reading a very informative thread in this forum I've learned that there is never a good reason to drain it completely unless, you know, you're actually using it and can't get to a charger. It'll just decrease the overall life of the battery.
     
  7. SouthernEvo

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    To be honest I never did the drain completely and recharge thing . I just put the battery in and charged it and carried on like normal . I make it through the day fine with plenty of life to spare . Just plug in and charge and keep going every night .
     
  8. Mr. Ed

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    do you really have two threads going on this???
     
  9. JunBringer

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    I don't think the mods pay enough attention to merge them.
     
  10. PGR

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    Gawd ...

    Merging threads is so counterproductive. Most of the time it just makes the good information hard to find.

    Take the "Battery Life - The Good The Bad and The Ugly" thread for example: There's some damned good information in there, but who's going to slog through 1264 posts in 26 pages to find it? Perhaps the saddest part is a lot of the most useful information used to be on the first couple of pages of some smaller threads, but now it's basically doomed to obscurity.

    Whatever ... You neatnicks deserve each other. ;)

    Pete (who hangs his hat on an xda hook now)
     
  11. Palmetto Fellow

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    PGR advises against this. These batteries should never be subjected to a full drain. If the voltage drops below 3V, bad things can happen.

    I think 5% or so is the lowest you should ever go. That's how low I go when I consciously try to bring it as low as possible.
     
  12. Mr. Ed

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    lol..pete, I think you misread . .....the poster has two same exact threads going on the same exact topic...sometimes I worry about you :p
     
  13. PGR

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    There are two things you just DON'T want to do to LiPo batteries: Overcharge them and over discharge them. Corporate lawyers and hardware engineers are painfully aware of this so they build safegards into rechargeable electronic devices to prevent consumers from doing either one. The Evo is an expensive and sophisticated electronic device so it's safe to assume that it's not an exception. In other words, I'm absolutely convinced that it isn't possible to overcharge or over discharge the Evo battery as long as you leave it in the phone.

    An Evo battery is fully-charged when it reaches 4.2V and the phone isn't going to let you exceed that. Discharging the Evo battery below 3.0V will do irreversible damage to it so the phone isn't going to let you do that either. Actually, the reports I've read say the Evo shuts itself off when the battery drops to 3.5V and that sounds about right becase for all practical purposes a LiPo cell is "empty" when it reaches ~3.5V at low discharge rates. This is illustrated quite nicely in this discharge graph of an OEM 1500mAh Evo battery which was discharged at 250mA with a battery analyzer.

    So in theory the Evo's battery "gauge" should read 100% when the battery voltage is 4.2V and 0% when the battery voltage is 3.5V and that seems to be pretty accurate when everything is working right. But something apparently happens to some phones which throws that battery gauge off. I'm convinced that 4.2V is still full, 3.5V is still empty, and the phone will still run for the correct amount of time despite what the gauge says, but the gauge shows a lower percentage than is actually available and that makes people think the battery is going dead before it really is. Please note that the last sentence is hypothesis based on the anecdotal evidence that I've read in this and other forums about the Evo, but my own Evo has yet to exhibit the behavior so I haven't had the opportunity to confirm it.

    Regardless, there is a procedure which apparently recalibrates the the battery gauge and it does involve discharging the battery until the phone hits the low-voltage cutoff. That's not all there is to it, though, and your phone needs to be rooted so you can delete the battery stats. The procedure I'm talking about can be found HERE in Section 2.4 "Battery Recalibration". I haven't done this procedure because I haven't had to so I can't comment on how successful it is. You can also find other procedures without looking too hard, but Cyanogin's is the only one I've seen that doesn't read like an ad for snake oil. ;)

    Pete
     
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