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  1. wide awake

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    My Desire HD fell on a rock and the screen smashed so I replaced it with a Nexus S thinking that I would love the "pure google" experience. The phone is pretty good for the most part, but there are three spots where I find Sense far superior. The keyboard, dialer, and camera. The stock Android versions don't even come close. Does anyone know if there is a place to get the Sense version of these to put on my Nexus S? I have put dialer one on it... it is ok. Upgraded the camera to Zoom Fx.. horrible, and now I don't want to change the keyboard for fear of downloading another crappy app.

    Any one that can help?
     

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    For keyboards I like SwiftKey x. For the dailer and camera I use stock.
     
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    There are so many nice keyboards out there, and well, I actually prefer Go Keyboard. In fact, I am using Go Keyboard + Go SMS Pro and Go Launcher. LOL. All great programs. :)
     
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    I got my HTC desire HD as an upgrade to my samsung galaxy S and I found sense to be horrible. sold my phone after a week of use.
     
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    You can try A.I. type keyboard. You wiil probably get a better answer about sense on the nexus in the nexus sub-forum..
     
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    B, good advice on AI keyboard. its a good one with the different choices. i'm surprised that i'm using the Windows keyboard...

    sense is pretty fun to some. if you root i think that's youre best option for getting sense back on your phone
     
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    Long press (also on the SGII and Swiftkey X) and arrow keys are two of the reasons I can think of. Gingerbread has neither.

    The HTC mail client also supports multiple exchange accounts, without IMO looking horrible. There's something to be said about having a set of widgets with a consistent look to them.
     
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    Unless some enterprising dev has managed to port an HTC ROM to the Nexus S you're out of luck, as the HTC apps require Sense.

    Otherwise, Dialer One and FlexT9 are the weapons-of-choice on my vanilla Desire Z.
     
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    Thanks guys. Trying out the Go keyboard. It seems ok. The thing that frustrated me about the native keyboard was that i couldn't make it slide down when I wanted to see what was underneath. Dialer one may have to do I guess. At least it has speed dial. It just seems like google left a few very basic functions out of their native apps. Speed dial, camera zoom, and a good keyboardare things I would think they would want to perfect.
     
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    You could also try the MIUI camera (attached). Whilst not great, it does support touch to focus which I don't believe is a feature of the vanilla android camera. That's something I really missed when using CM7.

    I felt exactly the same as you, when I've had an AOSP ROM installed, I've missed the Sense dialer/contact management & camera.
     

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    I like the HTC keyboard, but I also like the stock Gingerbread keyboard too. In fact, in my Samsung Galaxy S2, i got the standard Gingerbread keyboard installed as default.

    Both HTC Sense and vanilla Android has both their pluses and minuses.

    HTC Mail client - Do you know you can set up GMail on this client and actually get pinch and zoom viewing too? (Sort of like the iPhone mail client). The standard GMail client doesn't pinch and zoom.

    vs.

    Standard email client - What I dislike about the HTC Mail client is that although it has support for multiple Exchange accounts, I can't set up m.hotmail (the push version of Hotmail) on it. It prefers to use the default, wizard setup Hotmail. On the standard Android email account, there is an alternative way to set up Hotmail that will let you get push notifications instead of POP3. The Samsung stock email account is closely patterned after the stock Android client and has this as well.

    Gallery

    HTC Gallery is fast, has direct Flickr upload. If you set up Flickr account sync with Friendstream, it will sync Flickr photos too. However it lacks Picasa support.

    Standard Gallery (also known as the Nexus Gallery). --- also seen on the Samsung phones as Samsung wisely chose not to modify this app. No direct Flickr support but it has native Picasa cloud integration. That will help you if you are a Google+ user.

    If you are using Google+, I noticed problems with the Instant Upload feature of the Android Google+ app. HTC Sense actually stores pictures on a separate partition than than what the stock Nexus Gallery app does. You can actually download a copy of the Gallery app from the Android Market and install it on your HTC phone. You will notice it won't show the pictures you took because the way the pictures are stored.

    Facebook

    Friendstream is a nice app to see your Facebook and Twitter feeds with. For some reason I can't post on Facebook recently and that must have been the result of some API change in Facebook.

    The one thing I don't particularly like about HTC is that they replace the original Facebook sync, which is provided for you when you install the original Facebook app for Android. What HTC replaced it was Facebook Sync for HTC Sense. You can't set up the original sync and the Facebook app itself now has to use this sync. However, push notifications on the original Facebook app or Facebook Messenger doesn't go through this anyway.

    Of course, the reason why HTC disables Facebook sync and insists on using theirs is to prevent duplication in syncs.

    On the Nexus S, due to a tiff with Facebook, from Android 2.3.3 and 2.3.4, you will see the original Facebook sync disabled. This is for contacts, which means your Facebook contacts won't be syncing into your phone directory. However, it doesn't stop push notifications. Gingerbread actually has better push notifications for Facebook especially if you installed Facebook Messenger --- you can see the portrait of the contact in the notification on the curtain itself.

    I'm using a Galaxy S2 right now. The Samsung, unlike HTC, allows for the original Facebook sync, even though it has a separate Facebook sync of its own (Facebook Sync for Social Hub). But again, this can result in duplicate syncs if you fail to turn off the Sync Contacts in the Social Hub account.

    While Samsung does allow Facebook to sync contacts into the phone book (every Android does except the Nexus S), Samsung doesn't have the automatic linking between duplicate entries on the contacts book unlike HTC.
     
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    Mine seems to. When I first synced contacts I noticed that there were added icons on the "joined contacts" field on my contacts list, which when checked were for the facebook and twitter accounts of my friends.
     
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    Hey wide awake, I read post like yours and think really? I find myself trying to distance myself from sense as much as I can but to each their own I suppose:D

    As to your questions Go is the closest thing to the sense keyboard I think you will find. You may also want to check out Go Contacts to see if that is close enough to sense as you would find acceptable. As for the camera, try out the MIUI camera attached earlier. I never used the sense camera much and can't say what is close to it, I personally like the MIUI camera over the AOSP camera;) Hope you can get your phone back to how you like it!
     
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    Samsung, at least on my Galaxy phones, only goes far to suggest the links, and its up to you to complete it. HTC would would automatically link them. There are pros and cons on each method though.
     
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    I'm using a Samsung Galaxy SL, and they suddenly just appeared as "joined" already the first time I synced my facebook contacts.
     
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    I use the Miui ROM and much prefer the camera over the stock one that was party of the CyanogenMod 6 (aka Android 2.2) ROM.

    wide awake why not take the plunge and got for a nonstandard ROM?
     
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    I'm already running GO launcher on my HTC, when I finally decide to load cm7, gingerbeast or something, the main thing I'm going to miss from sense is the time-wheels you use to set alarm or appointment times. Those +/- buttons are sure going to suck in comparison.

    The camera thing could be bad too.
     
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    Good keyboard apps are sure hard to find, the best way is to see the screen size and then select an app according to that because if the screen size is too squeezed then there will be problems typing as the keys will also get the squeeze.
     
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    The time wheels are the only thing that I really miss from the HTC, Miui has them but they just dont work the same :-(
     
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    time wheels represent!!
     
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    I think you're right. I think I remembered the Galaxy S did autolink, but they probably got the heat for that and they stopped it on the S2.
     
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    Everyone's comments are interesting. A lot of different tastes as far as Android goes. I took back the Nexus and replaced it with a Sensation that I couldn't get an unlock code for and ended up going back to another Desire HD. I will switch out the DHD for another sensation in a week or so when I can find an unlock code for it. After that I may consider rooting and trying a different ROM, but I just don't have the time to play with it that much. I love being able to customize android, but still don't want to have to spend weeks getting everything right.

    Sidenote... Is there anything being released in the next couple of weeks that would be better than the Sensation?
     
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    Has anyone else noticed that Facebook for Android has it's own time wheels that look a lot like the iOS ones?
     
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    I don't use iOS, so I wouldn't know. I've been holding off on updating FB since there seems to be so many negative comments about it.
     
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    Always qualify exactly what you mean when you use highly subjective words such as "better". What you consider to be an improvement the next person might not. Never assume that your preferences are universal.
     

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