1. Download our Official Android App: Forums for Android!

General Should I even open the box?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by Markedwards, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. Markedwards

    Markedwards Newbie
    Thread Starter
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    15
    Posts:
    15
    Joined:
    May 22, 2011

    My Photon is set to arrive tomorrow. I went through the nightmare of the Samsung Nexus S 4G and never want to live that kind of mess again. Based on what I'm seeing on this forum, I'm wondering if I shouldn't just take the phone back to the Sprint Store unopened and stick with my EVO 4G. Are the problems with the Photon that bad? Is this another Nexus mess? Any guidance would be appreciated.
     

    Advertisement

  2. Bandage

    Bandage Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    33
    Posts:
    88
    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2010

    Nov 3, 2010
    88
    72
    33
    People HAVE to keep in mind the following.

    Proven Fact: For every negative comment / complaint, there are dozens of positive comments NOT being made. It is human nature to point out the negative, and let others know about it. I would venture a guess that out of all the Photons purchased, 80% work as intended.

    If you go to a restaurant and have a great experience, you might tell a friend or two. If you have a terrible experience, you'll tell 10.

    This doesn't account for opinion however. The pentile screen is an example. Some love it, others hate it.

    Yeah...people are having issues with some things. Most are not. An environment such as this, where people are savvy enough go to discuss a particular device will have more than it's share of complaints. It's the type of place to discuss things like that.

    Open the box...see for yourself. If you got a bum device, return it.
     
    Flipper, ScandaLeX and bcrsr like this.
  3. jlear3

    jlear3 Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    18
    Posts:
    77
    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2011

    Aug 7, 2011
    77
    17
    18
    It seemed alright, but I'm not for the Pentile screen, checked it out before reading any reviews and might have got it, but read reviews about the screen and after going back and checking it out, I must say.. I picked the 3d screen and SENSE - sense being a big part haha. Go check out a demo phone and see if you like the phone itself or not.. If you experience any problems that shouldn't be there take it to corporate
     
  4. McLogan

    McLogan Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    18
    Posts:
    33
    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011

    Jul 24, 2011
    33
    14
    18
    Instructor
    Ohio
    So far, The Photon 4g has been the best phone I have ever had.

    Could it crap out in 5 minutes, sure, just like anything. But I have found it lightning fast, and will do anything an Android device could possibly do.

    Very good sound quality, and much better at holding onto the poor signal I have here on the edge of the range than my last two or three phones.

    Yes there have been some others with serious issues, but you might also be seeing one out of a thousand here on the boards.

    I would recommend getting the extended service plan on anything this complicated, but I would recommend it on ANY Android phone.

    Go for it. If you don't like it, trade it it. Buy you may kick yourself if you do not try it first.
    Good luck...:)
     
  5. busted bones

    busted bones Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    78
    Posts:
    515
    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2010

    Dec 19, 2010
    515
    74
    78
    Shipping and Receiving Manager
    He pretty much hit it on the head. I was going to point out the same points as well. Only you can be a judge of whether or not a phone is going to be a problem with you. I came to this from an EVO 4G that turned into a nightmare after the GB update. I have had the call issue happen to me 2x. On the EVo though I was having it almost consistently reboot during calls and even once during a 911 call to report a dangerous drunk driver. With all mass produced items there will be some that have issues. Heck people even make jokes out of it like Found On Roadside Daily or Can Hear Every Valve Rattle On Long Extended Trips.
     
  6. drexappeal

    drexappeal Android Expert
    Rank:
     #24
    Points:
    1,133
    Posts:
    10,783
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2010

    Apr 8, 2010
    10,783
    3,118
    1,133
    Male
    Entertainment Industry
    West LA, CA
    I personally love the phone, even with the little things that I've noticed (which I could easily point out about every single smartphone I've ever owned...in fact, it'd be worse with the other phones, including the EVO).

    If you find yourself to be "overly critical" (again, that's all relative to how you are as far as phones are concerned), then I'd say you probably will notice every single little thing on the phone that you don't like and it will be a "big" problem for you that isn't necessarily a "big" problem for others. You have 30 days, so if you're going to go through the hassle of actually returning the phone anyway, why not just take those 30 days of trial before deciding (or even less, if you know right away that it's not the right phone for you).
     
  7. IFMISM

    IFMISM Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    81
    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2009

    Oct 23, 2009
    81
    6
    16
    I would say give it a try. I have the 3vo, but that is my preference. I have seen the phone and played with it for a while. It is not a phone that i would just simply pass up. There are alot of negative comments about a lot of phones, even the evo 4g when it came out. If you like the 4g then this phone is definitely an upgrade. The best advice I can give is don't let others make your choices for you. Give it a try and if you don't like it send it packing
     
  8. brushrop03

    brushrop03 Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    287
    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2010

    Jul 28, 2010
    287
    36
    43
    Student
    Nashville, TN
    I would say just go ahead and play with it for a while. Test out all the features you would normally use it for.

    I'm also on the fence about keeping. It has its pros and its cons, just like most phones. And if you have time go to a Sprint or Best Buy and play with the 3vo.
     
  9. excav8ter

    excav8ter Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    78
    Posts:
    597
    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2010

    Mar 14, 2010
    597
    83
    78
    Holland, Michigan
    I have had mine for just over a week and really like it. I had an EVO prior to the MoPho. The MoPho has been great so far. Have never even thought about returning it.
     
  10. SteveO_148

    SteveO_148 Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    33
    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2010

    Apr 18, 2010
    33
    3
    16
    I have the Evo Shift and I can upgrade...long story...I am trying to decide between the Photon and the Evo 3D. Sprint's site has pretty much all positive reviews about the photon.
     
  11. clgwli

    clgwli Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    162
    Joined:
    May 12, 2011

    May 12, 2011
    162
    31
    43
    Central, Ohio
    I agree that usualy the ones who make the most noise are the ones who are negative. It's just the way it seems to be. I'm a rare one who loves to praise more than I do complain. not sure why so I am here being vocal because I am very pleased with this phone.

    I have read a ton of bad about 3Vo with issues it has had, but it wouldn't keep me away from buying it had I liked it better.

    I've never owned a Motorla phone before but I am so glad I made the switch. I've had no major complaints bout this phone at all. I can nitpick to death on everything if i want to, but in the end I have way fewer nitpicks about this phonne than I do almost anything else I own... I think even less than my beloved Asus Transformer tablet I am currently using.
     
  12. SporkLover

    SporkLover Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    53
    Posts:
    498
    Joined:
    May 9, 2010

    May 9, 2010
    498
    98
    53
    I personally think the 3Vo is a better phone. If I didn't want to carry two phones in Europe, I would have stuck with the 3Vo.

    That said, the Photon 4G is a SOLID competitor despite the issues you see posted on the forum. As previous posters stated.... these forums are largely support forums... you will see more posts in the negative just because the nature of the forums. Generally if people don't have issues, they wont be posting.

    I'll put it this way, although I think the 3vo is the better phone, the P4G doesn't make me miss it.
     
    ScandaLeX likes this.
  13. Damar1979

    Damar1979 Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    293
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2010

    Jan 7, 2010
    293
    49
    43

    Honestly, both have its pros and cons. Htc sense 3.0 is nothing short of awesomeness on the htc 3d. The ui is completely polished and i can honestly say that i miss it! Screen is crystal clear and the phone in general runs like butter. However... call quality was definitely somewhat lackluster, screen washed out in the daylight, and the speaker phone left a LOT to be desired. You'd have to make sure no noise was in your area just so you could hear it.

    Now the photon, i can admit the pixelation was a definite turn off at first. But much like anything else, after a while you get used to it to the point where you no longer notice. Especially since you can see the screen clear as day boldly so in broad daylight. Speaker phone is ridiculously and pleasantly loud. Calls are an improvement on the phone. The music app is the SugarHoneyIcedTea! Zippy for the most part and very responsive. The pros totally outweigh the cons with this phone. I totally do not regret trading in the evo 3d for the photon!
     
  14. mitchedo

    mitchedo Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    50
    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011

    Aug 6, 2011
    50
    5
    36
    Medical information systems
    Utah
    I've had mine 4 days. ...no problems so far. Well, one slight one. Yesterday, I was receiving two phone calls, at least one voicemail, and a text -- all at the same time -- while I was trying to make a call. The phone lagged a little.

    I love the PenTile display. It's easily readable in full noonday sunlight. Yes, there is a texture on some still images in certain solid colors (sky blue and light green) that is just barely at the limits of my perception. ...but I'll trade the full-on sun readability, and slightly better battery life, for pixel perfection any day. If you aren't looking at the display side-by-side with a non-PenTile screen, and you aren't looking explicitly for it, it's not there. When it is there, it just doesn't bother me. It's a phone, not my primary entertainment device. There are necessary compromises, and the PenTile seems to hit them about right.

    While I'm on the subject of the screen, does automatic brightness work on other Android phones as perfectly as it does on this Photon? The automatic brightness on my laptop is awful! I never even see it working on the Photon. It's just always the right brightness.

    I looked at the 3Vo. It's not for me. Sense is nice, but after almost 3 years with a Touch Pro, I'm soured on HTC. All that eye candy just unnecessarily drags down the phone. If the Galaxy S2 comes out in the next 25 days, I will definitely consider a swap. But that S2 will have to be something totally spectacular to get me to trade my Photon for it.
     
  15. brushrop03

    brushrop03 Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    287
    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2010

    Jul 28, 2010
    287
    36
    43
    Student
    Nashville, TN
    Auto brightness is usually a battery drainer on phones.

    Well before Sense wasn't running on a dual core processor with 1gb of ram. The 3vo is quite smooth. Playing with my friends for about 10mins I can say it was smoother than the Photon. But again only 10mins of use. And this is android. Sense can be replaced with another launcher.
     
  16. mitchedo

    mitchedo Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    50
    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011

    Aug 6, 2011
    50
    5
    36
    Medical information systems
    Utah
    I would have thought auto brightness would save the battery. Is it because it keeps it too bright, or because it hogs up the battery to run?

    As for Sense... My Touch Pro has a 528 MHz cpu -- state of the art in 2008. The Touch Flo 3D overlay just dogged it to death. It could have been much snappier if it had less eye candy. I'm only assuming HTC will pretty much always use a lot of processing power for eye candy. I just don't care for eye candy at the expense of performance. I realize Sense is a totally different animal, running on a totally different OS. It is very nice. ...but my Touch Pro worked well at first too. It just got slower and slower and slower as time went on, and all without a single software update. I didn't install a single app other than S2U2 screen lock. I didn't dare.
     
  17. blindman13

    blindman13 Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    86
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009

    Dec 6, 2009
    86
    6
    16
    My friend has the Evo 3d and my girl has the Evo 4g..I had Eris. After playing with the Photon I fell in love. (I was a Sense fiend) I do not experience 95% of the issues reported on this forum. I don't see the "screen door" effect and my battery lasts pretty long time. Sound quality on calls and speaker is better then anyone of the fones I mentioned. The only problem I have is my battery cover, but thats cuz Im OCD like that.
     
  18. clgwli

    clgwli Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    162
    Joined:
    May 12, 2011

    May 12, 2011
    162
    31
    43
    Central, Ohio
    It hogs the battery to run constantly finding the "right" level. I dislike Auto (tendency to be too bright IMO on all Androids) so I keep mine at the lowest level and just toggle through if I go outside with the power bar app I use at the top (use it also to turn off and on wi-fi and GPS)
     
  19. bcrsr

    bcrsr Newbie
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    18
    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2010

    Aug 9, 2010
    18
    1
    16
    SAN Consultant
    Ohio
    Well said, Bandage.
     
  20. SteveO_148

    SteveO_148 Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    33
    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2010

    Apr 18, 2010
    33
    3
    16
    I understand being sour about a manufacture, but I have the EVO Shift and really like sense. It seems that other launchers are trying to capture/keep up with sense widgets and performance. I came from the Samsung Moment, which has/had a really nice screen but big hardware issues and has soured me on Samsung phones. As well as a friend got the Captivate and it would just shut off. I want nothing to do with Samsung. That is just my experience.

    As far as sense goes on my wife's EVO 4G and my EVO Shift, it runs well and is not a performance hog. I also believe that it manages battery usage pretty well with how it controls it's widgets. They only update when you go to that homepage. I have had many widgets that do their thing in the background and kill your battery life.
     
  21. apinkel

    apinkel Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    53
    Posts:
    404
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2010

    Jun 14, 2010
    404
    99
    53
    Sense takes a lot of storage space but I don't think it's a performance hog. I think it's one of the smoothest custom UI's available for android. I like sense for the fixes they put in place to some of the limitations of stock android... T9 dialing, an email client that works, useful widgets, etc..

    That said, most things that sense offers can be replicated by downloading an app from the market (it's usually not quite as slick as sense but it works). So when I'm looking for a phone I'm more concerned about the quality of the hardware... the stuff that can't be fixed after you buy the phone.

    I like the photon because of it's good reception, call quality, build quality and screen (the resolution and the fact that it's viewable outside). So far I haven't heard of any common issue with the phone. I personally think the pentile screen issue is a bit overblown but I also know that once you "see" an issue, it's hard to "unsee" it.
     
  22. armandov99

    armandov99 Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    77
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2009

    Dec 17, 2009
    77
    4
    16
    Los Angeles
    I just got my Photon. Build quality is absolutely superb. The battery door is so snug it's very difficult to remove even when you're trying. The buttons are solid and feel great.

    Phone signal and sound are absolutely excellent, perhaps the best I've ever seen on a smartphone. I think it outperforms my Evo for sure.

    My only two complaints are 1) the screen, I can see the PenTile's 'screen door' effect regardless of brightness. I will settle for this if it means better battery life and outdoor visibility. And 2) the Motoblur. Wow, what a change from Sense. This is quite frankly something I'd be embarrassed to put out if I were a manufacturer. It's like they had a high school student design the widgets and the look of the whole thing, while HTC had a proper graphic/industrial designer work on Sense. The difference is astonishing. However, I can overlook this because I got rid of all the widgets and I hope to replace the launcher with something that doesn't suck as much as this Motorola one.

    As a side note about Sense, I found it to be a drag on performance on my old Hero, and in the initial software of my Evo, but with the 2.3 update for the Evo I think it was really snappy and no longer an issue.
     
  23. drexappeal

    drexappeal Android Expert
    Rank:
     #24
    Points:
    1,133
    Posts:
    10,783
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2010

    Apr 8, 2010
    10,783
    3,118
    1,133
    Male
    Entertainment Industry
    West LA, CA
    If, aside from the screen, the only thing you don't like is Motoblur, I'd definitely check out one of the aftermarket launcher UI's (e.g. Launcher Pro, Go Launcher, ADW). I absolutely love Launcher Pro Plus on the Photon as compared to how it was on my EVO. On my EVO, it would start out great, but after a while it had really bad lag and started to have a lot of force close issues. On the Photon, it's unbelievably smooth!
     

Share This Page

Loading...