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Support Size Limit for MP4 Video Files?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by spmoore1, Jun 6, 2010.

  1. spmoore1

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    I have a 4GB video file in MP4 format. I can view the file perfectly on my laptop using the defaul media player "Media Player Classic". I have trensferred the file to my new EVO and I cannot watch the video...it does not even load. I get the following error message "Cannot Play Video" and "Sorry, this video cannot be played."

    I have tried the default video player, doubletwist and Meridian with no success. I then thought perhaps the single 4GB file is too large for the EVO and Android apps. I am about to break the file into smaller chunk, but I wanted to ask the forum first. Any suggestions?
     

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  2. reallynotnick

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    Well if the card is formatted in FAT32 you can't have files larger than 4GB on it, so that could be partly a cause of the problem.
     
  3. spmoore1

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    I am a noob, so please consider when you read this...

    I bought a 16gb card for the EVO with plans to keep a few movies on the SD card. Wether it is FAT32 or (FAT64?), I have no idea. Is the 4GB limit on the FAT32 exactly 4GB? I ask because the file I am trying to view is 4,096MB. Just barely over the limit I guess. How can I check to see if it is setup as FAT32? If so, anyway to change to FAT64 without losing all data?
     
  4. boriqua2000

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    i belive there is a 4 hour limit on videos or something like that.
     
  5. whatsitsname

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    I haven't receive my phone yet, but from what I have read there is a 2gb size limit on the video. Just google htc evo how to and I am pretty sure you will find the guide. Breaking up the movie should work.
     
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  6. jlarson7098

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    Using Moyea Blu-Ray Video Converter Ultimate, I can now rip blu-ray discs to compatible 720p format playable with the EVO native player. Once I confirmed my settings produced playable 720p file, I tried to create entire movie "The Replacement Killers" in same format. The first file size limitation I ran into is the micro SD chip, which would not even let me copy a file larger that 4GB (confirmed). The second file size limitation problem appears to be the video player on EVO. I managed to get entire movie into file just under 4GB, copied to EVO, but wouldn't play with same settings as smaller file that did play beautifully. So it appears we are chasing the same file size limitation and I should have answers in a few hours (takes time to create test files of different specific sizes to do validation, buy Moyea has great feature where you can watch the file size grow to a point and simply click cancel, the MP4 simply ends at the point you clicked cancel, brilliant). I will break in half to 2GB chunks as suggested first and go from there. By the way, here are the settings that create amazing MP4s for your EVO right from blu-ray disc. I decided to use "The Replacement Killers" since it has a lot of action, good sound and I own it on both DVD and Blu-Ray so I can compare. I have also confirmed that these play awesomely on large Sharp Aquos via HDMI at 720p with good sound. So at a total size of around 4GB for a Blu-Ray movie, even if it has to be broken into smaller chunks, means I can probably have around 6-8 720p quality full length feature films on single 32GB micro SD chip.

    Moyea settings:

    Video

    H.264 HD Video(*.mp4)
    Codec: h264
    Size(pix): 1280x720
    Bitrate(kbps): 6000
    Frame rate(fps): 30

    Audio:

    Codec: aac
    Sample rate(hz): 48000
    Bit rate(bps): 320000
    Channels: Stereo
     
  7. jlarson7098

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    BTW, the audio settings don't work if set at 5.1 channels or 640k bit rate. Not sure if 320k bit rate and say 128k bit rate sound any different, but this change had no effect on file size, so I am thinking there is a bit rate cap on audio for MP4 videos on EVO, but it is a little confusing since the audio playback for WMA files is 192k. Are my MP4 files really being created with 320k audio bit rate, or is it defaulting to a lower maximum bit rate, which is what I suspect since the file size does not change between say 128k and 320k, but what exactly is the limit? In any event, the 320,000bps audio rate setting with channels set to stereo works very well.
     
  8. sitlet

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    I've tried many different ways to convert movies for this phone. Everytime i have a file over 2gb, it wont play. It's not because of the file system, i think its just a limitation of the OS or the media player. For some longer movies, or movies i want to have better quality, I'll just split the file into 2 sections to keep them under 2gb
     
  9. Stryfe

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    Same here...
     
  10. grindstoneslave

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    yeah, It won't play files larger than 2GB:(
     
  11. Ashunte

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    Use real player app, the stock one wouldn't play any of my videos and the were all under 1gig, but the real player app plays them with no problem!
     
  12. imukdude

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  13. ww927bin

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    The continuous video will be broken up into a series of consecutive files, all with a file size limitation of 4 GB(FAT32)
    I suggest you Pavtube Video to HTC Converter
    How to convert video to HTC Evo 4G, HTC Hero and HTC Touch with video to HTC converter?
     
  14. EarlyMon

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    While the fat32 limit is 4 GB, I believe you'll find the limit on your SD card is actually 2 GB.
     
  15. xefe

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    actual file limit size or movie viewing size ?


    Also... Is there just not a darn program that can upconvert/downconvert the file on the fly so that it is playable on the evo ? It has a 1ghz processor.... I have an entire movie collection in MP4 format, so that I can view them on ps3/wii and media center devices in my different bedrooms. I have well over 400 movies that I have already ripped from existing dvds. I dont want to have to re rip them just to play them on my phone.
     
  16. EarlyMon

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    File size limit. 32-bit integer is used for addressing (2^32=4 gig), but with our OS, it's signed (half positive, half negative - and negative file sizes are irrational, so...) that limits it to 2 GB.
     
  17. superBikeMan

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    my phone is samsung galaxy s2 i9100
    I successfully transfer my 1080P movie(over 4 Gb size) to my phone's sd card
    You have to transfer the movie through your phone usb, but not your card reader,
    and then your file system of your sd card will not be recognized as FAT32.
     
  18. hilaryleopold

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