Folowing on from the battery poll i thought I would start this one. I am talking about the external speaker which is used for playing music video sound and sat nav etc, and not the one you use to listen to phone calls.Just to make it clear. Now I know there has been loads of theads and the general consensus is thats its poor. So if you think its good then can you please say what branding the phone has if any, just to see if its a software issue( I hope!) Its probably the biggest disappointment to me on this phone since I was planning to use the sat nav as I do on my old nokias but it is more or less completely useless since not only is it very quite but the sound quality is truly awful. Anyway thanks for reading and hopefully voting. I will be sending an email of complaint to HTC and Orange over the weekend so If I get a reply I will post what they say.