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Sprint's $29 hotspot vs Froyo 2.2 native hotspot

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by nbm400, May 20, 2010.

  1. nbm400

    nbm400 Well-Known Member
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    Any guesses on how is Sprint going to deal with the hotspot charge once it becomes native to the OS?
     

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  2. KiLo11

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    they can easily remove that feature
     
  3. Roman G.

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    Just a theory here, but I keep thinking that the 10 fee has something to do with release of Froyo and the hotspot feature.

    But yes they can easily remove it as well!
     
  4. KiLo11

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    no froyo wont be released for a while and why charge $10 now and $29 on top of that all for hotspot
     
  5. Aridon

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    Root and it won't matter what sprint does.
     
  6. 80s_kid

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    very true. i would never pay that extra $30.
     
  7. mrk

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    Sprint has said (with regard to this issue) that there policy is not to block apps (y helo thar, shot at att). Don't worry about it.
     
  8. Roman G.

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    I don't have any idea, thats what I am trying to figure out, but again it's just my theory:D
     
  9. Aragorn

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  10. aliveon2legs

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    Will I be able to root it and install Froyo with Sense?
     
  11. KiLo11

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    well when froyo is released with sense by htc then yeh it will have sense but u have to wait first htc to add sense to it first
     
  12. aliveon2legs

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    If Sense is as good as I get the impression it is, then I can wait a few extra weeks to root. But I've really never used Android and I've never used Sense, so I don't know.
     
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  13. septro

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    It will undoubtedly be blocked by Sprint. THere is no way they will allow a free app that allows for mobile hotspot to compete with a paid app they provide for the same functionality.

    Will this matter if you root your device and tether anyway without paying the $30 fee? Sprint hasn't been known to be dickish but they could put in detection to identify pc's connecting via the phone and stick you with the $30 charge.

    All you need to do is connect with a browser not readily avail on the EVO, like Firefox or Safari on your tethered PC - it's trivial to identify that in an HTTP user-agent header.
     
  14. Aragorn

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    In order to identify the user-agent string Sprint would have to do deep packet inspection on the data coming out the phone. DPI is where the carrier actually looks at the contents of the data packet and not simply where it's going.

    DPI has been a bit of a third rail for ISPs. Everyone that has been proven to be doing it has faced some serious backlash from consumers and regulators. It goes against the concept of net neutrality which the FCC is looking to enforce (we'll see if they actually have the authority to do so).

    So, to me, it seems like Sprint would be risking some serious anger, resentment and possible hassles with federal regulators if they start doing DPI. It doesn't seem worth it to try and stop the few people who are going to root their phones and get around the $29 hotspot fee.
     
  15. justlookin

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  16. Aragorn

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    Be careful about the context here. Note that the original story is from TechCrunch. If you look at the original story you get a much more nuanced explanation about the monitoring.
     
  17. sikclown

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    Yeah my money is on Sprint disabling the built in hotspot on Froyo just as they have disabled tethering on their smart phones for a long time. However they will not block a downloadable app
     
  18. dsa1971

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    IMO it would be reasonable for Sprint to disable this feature. I wouldn't want them to make a habit of disabling android features but I would not be upset if they disable tethering. What about the PDANet application? Can that still be used?
     
  19. Aragorn

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    Look at MrK's post 3 above yours.
     
  20. GeneralPatton

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    I suspect once you root your EVO and download a hotspot app, you will be good to go and bypass the $30/mo charge.

    The reason I say this is, because, not many phone buyers actually look into the phone so far as to root it. Most users don't even know what rooting is, so for Sprint to use resources (and money) to find the people who do root to get free hotspot on their phone will more than likely cost Sprint just as much money as it would if those people were paying monthly for it.

    .. This is my opinion, and once a few people do successfully root their EVO 4G's and are able to be a mobile hotspot without paying, I will follow right behind them and do the same.
     
  21. MyNameIsNotImportant

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    I think I know what Sprint's play here is. They've been very careful to tout that the $30 charge is to remove the cap. I have a hunch that when 2.2 comes along, they'll keep the $30 charge for uncapped usage but allow tethering with a strict 5GB cap.
     
  22. sikclown

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    The 10.00 premium addresses the data cap
     
  23. Aragorn

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    The $29/month hotspot charge isn't what removes the 5GB cap. The $10 Premium Service charge is what does that.
     
  24. MyNameIsNotImportant

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    carry on
     
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