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  1. James L

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    Spy app, child monitoring, employee monitoring etc. Do you agree or disagree with them?

    If you agree with them state why as well as if you disagree with them.

    Here is a link, for a Video showing what a Spy app can see or do.



     

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    At some point i agree as well as at some point i disagree with spy app.
     
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    To locate a family member, such as a minor or your child. I agree, there are times, though we hope such a senerio never occurs,  when it might mean the difference between life and death.

    Any means to fasilitate the safe return or prevention of harm,of a loved one should be considered a most valuable tool.

    I'm sure most would agree, the biggest concern is the misuses of these types of trackers for malisious puposes.

    How do we solve this issue and still enjoy the peace of mind, that the tracker service provides.
    As far as any other uses of tracking devices, beyond family safety,  I would disagree with uses. Its nobody's business but your own, where you go and when or with whom.
    We are humans, we have free will, we each have individual point of view and prospective, it is our right to be as unique or mundane as we choose.

    As long as ones activities does not impose upon anothers equally entittled perception and life choices negatively, then more power to you. Get freaky with yourself, cuz. Don't. Judge, lest you be Judged.

    My point is this.. Employers, teachers, political leaders, servaliance specialists, rumor mongers, the nosy old bitty next door.. Butt Out.. Its not your business.
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    Of course with this the mark's phone must be rooted, which means you have to be in physical possession of it, root maybe impossible to attain, rooting will usually invalidate the warranty, the mark may not want their phone rooted and can very likely tell if it has been rooted.
     
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    There apps that perform tracking without root
     
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    Can't think of any circumstance in which I agree. You should be communicating with your child, not installing spyware. And as for the rest, under no circumstances justifiable (including you, bad employers: you pay someone to perform a task, you do not own them, and if you can't treat them with the dignity a human being deserves you do not deserve to be in business).
     
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    The circumstance would kid knapping, or rock climbing and maybe past due to be back. Injured with nobody to help.. How do you find them quickly..  phone tracking.

    Thats all I'm saying. Not to be used to spy, but for safety purposes
     
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    Phones can be located without spyware, so there's really no need for it in those use cases. Even if you don't have a find my phone feature of any sort enabled the authorities can easily locate your phone, so its use case in child kidnapping is very limited indeed

    Anyway, exactly how common is child kidnapping? It happens in some marital disputes, but even then it's rare, and in those cases you generally would have an idea there's a risk and would certainly know the identity of the perpetrator. Outside of that it's extremely rare, and I'm not sure you wouldn't do more harm through paranoia than is justified by the remote risk. And that assumes that you have a kidnapper stupid enough to let the kid keep the phone, or take it themselves.

    But to reiterate, there are other ways of locating phones, especially with the owner's knowledge and consent. Spyware does a lot more than that, so I have to consider a question about spyware to include the other functions. And we do quite regularly get people asking how to install such software secretly on their kids phone so they can check they aren't communicating with someone they consider undesirable (less commonly employers asking for advice on monitoring employees). Of course even if you were to agree with the use case, you've no way of knowing whether someone on the net is representing themselves and their motivations accurately, and even if they are any answer you post is equally available to psycho boyfriends/girlfriends, stalkers, etc, so given the possible applications of this stuff I would never assist even if I felt there was a legitimate use (which, you'll have gathered, I do not).
     
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    If you are saying kidnapping, safety etc... is the reason to do it... then Teachers, Government , law enforcement, employers would also be justified. As it is their business.

    Personally I DON'T think someone should be able to keep me under intrusive 24 hour surveillance just because i may someday go rock climbing... but that seems to be where we differ.
     
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    What's in the OP's video seems to require root though, even the title of it, RootAndroidEasy dot com.

    Employee monitoring I'm sure can be done without root on company issued devices, where the user doesn't have admin access, i.e. the phones are locked-down. Company vehicles can be tracked as well, and often are.
     
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    If I was going rock climbing, fell walking, or some other outdoor sports, I may want tracking for just for that, and let someone else know as well of course, just in case of emergency.
     
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    I see it this way,
    If I were a parent and wanted to keep an eye my children and/or put limits to the things they do away from me/home.
    Employee monitoring on the device they may give you to use,Yes I disagree.
    This is my 2 cents.
     
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    Fine... You can have tracking Dad... There's loads of location sharing apps that I can install.. We can also agree check ins, and I'll call when I get home.. If you like I can share my photos when we get to the top...

    What you don't get is some piece of spywear, which also sends you recording of my calls... All my emails... SMS, WhatsApp, recordings of me asleep... Etc... Without my knowledge or consent
     
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    My thoughts on this. I have personally used this app on myself, I found it to be quite interesting. I didn't use it on a rooted device just on a tester device for root, whatever.

    Even though i was the one who installed it on my phone i thought of it as it being uncomfortable but at the same time intriguing.

    I guess I'm 50/50 on what i think of it.

    Note: this thread was made and intended to open a discussion and for educational purposes.
     
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    Does the device need to be rooted?
    For social media apps, yes for most of the other features, no.

    How the process starts and ends, no comment.
     
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    Does the device need to be rooted?
    For social media apps, yes for most of the other features, no.

    How the process starts and ends, no comment.
     
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    It's uncomfortable enough being tracked by google.
     
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    All in all I think if we believe we live in a world with out the surveillance i think we are wrong.

    I think if we spit on the sidewalk someone sees it whether it be a stranger, the government, Google etc.

    The drunken thoughts from me truly lol
     
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    I remember using Google maps to look at a old address and it showed me looking through the glass screen door.
     
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