Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by willdogs, Jul 16, 2010.
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I noticed that about my Eris since day 1. Signal depends on how you hold it. Fortunately, I'm usually in a pretty good signal area.
You can go into the settings and watch the dBm level go up and down in relation to how you hold it.
haha... I saw that. How BOGUS is that example!! It's a known issue with the HTC software that it doesn't show the right signal bars while you have PERFECT reception. They probably sat there with a camera and waited for the phone to show 4 bars, and then go to 0...
But during this, calls do NOT drop
Let me look for my post where I monitored this for 20 minutes...
But have you ever held your Eris in a way that completely drops your call or kills a 3G download? I know I haven't.
Drop a call. No. Kill a 3g download, yes. It probably depends on how strong the signal is where you're using the phone. Typically, VZW has better coverage than AT&T.
Again, you can go into the settings and watch the dBm fluctuate based where your hands are on the phone.
Here's the post of the test I did... I placed my phone on my desk and watched it... so no, your hand has NOTHING to do with the fluctuation...
Well, I must be a liar then because I can sit right here and MAKE my phone add 10 dBM (get more negative) by cupping my hands around the top & bottom of my phone.
will 10 dBM cause the signal bars to go from 4 to 0, as Steve Jobs claimed? No...
Well, a lot of times, mine is at 0 bars, even though the signal is showing -68 dBm. Every phone is calibrated differently in relation to the bars.
I'm just saying that I can in fact make my actual signal drop by placing my hands on certain areas of the phone.
Steve Jobs is a complete tool.
The Q&A is happening now. Here is one of the questions from reporters:
Q: I can't get my Bold to drop right now, maybe you can show me how to do it?
Steve: You may not see it in certain areas.
Here is a free case, this will solve everything.....
So even if his claim that our Eris have this problem too was true (although I think it's bogus for the most part), then would using a case on our phones fix the so-called problem as well?
How about "We designed the phone to look polished and finished and cool. But cover that up with a case"
So is Steve Jobs really trying to say that since other phones have this problem it's OK for his phone to have this problem?? Just my opinion but, the iphone used to set the standard and now it seems that it's trying to catch up.
Its well known by Eris users that the visual bar meter is not always very accurate. You literally must have a PERFECT signal to get 4 bars. You can also have zero bars and still have perfectly functional 3G.
Of course holding the phone will slightly affect the signal, due to it naturally have to go through an object (your hand). And it can also fluctuate, especially indoors, depending on how thick the walls are, if your by a window, and such. However, never once have I seen an Eris completely lose signal or drastically lose signal because of the way you hold it.
Besides, even if the Eris had this problem, why is he justifying it by comparing their top-of-the-line device to a device that was not even top-of-the-line on RELEASE?
Steve is getting pretty good at BS.
This is the best argument against Jobs. The Eris and iPhone aren't in the same class and shouldn't be compared.
Exactly what I was trying to say but you said it better!
I guess we should admire Jobs for putting himself out there, as he does.
But sometimes he reminds me of when Bill Gates was publicly introducing Windows 98 via press conference, with a big screen display behind him and the BSOD right there.
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Those two seem to have a bit in common. But at least they're not hiding from it.
I'm sitting here like an idiot holding my eris in every possible way. No difference. Solid 2 bars. Always. I've even set it in front of me as I type this. No difference. And there is a tower about a mile from my office.
Lame Jobs. Lame.
The problem that Steve Jobs fails to say is that they made the mistake of positioning the antenna in a spot that is often held whenever using the phone.
By putting the antenna there, it's almost impossible not to touch it.
Here's a pic of where the Eris' antenna is:
Although we might experience a slight drop if we held it there, it's in a position that's a lot less likely to be touched, therefore making it a superior location. This is what Jobs fails to admit is the flaw with his antenna design.
I just put my Eris in the palm of my hand walked around my office.....even went outside. No difference. Our problems are not their problems.
I wonder what HTC's, RIM's and Samsung's reaction is gonna be?
He is an idiot just trying to dodge the bullet. I have not experienced anything like this, and I can't even get my bars to change no matter how I hold the phone. Even at 0 bars, I can still make and receive phone calls with no problem.
Clever; the antenna at the top of the device.
Who would think to do that at iPhone/Apple?