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  1. masterchief3k

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    I know that you can't take VM branded phones anywhere else, but what about getting the Boost Volt over to VM? I'm sure that's a no, as well. It's cheaper on amazon. Only $60, that's why i'm curious. I hate boost's plans.
     

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    Nope
     
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    U gotta get a VM sim for it, then u can switch it over
     
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    Sim card is only used for Lte. The phones are supposedly sim locked so sim cards from other carriers won't work in them. Even if you get Lte to work with the sim card, calling, text and 3g won't work. Each Cdma carrier has their own list of allowed phones and if a phones serial number is not on the list they will not activate it.

    So a Boost Volt won't work on Virgin Mobile.
     
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    That's totally wrong . some devices that have a LTE card is already unlocked if the radios are able to use the LTE band to connect to gsm it is already to go in most cases you need a gsm patch for the device . now if its a T-Mobile it can be used on other gsm bands . some of Verizon devices that take 4g LTE cards aka icci cards are global devices meaning its already unlocked just needs a patch . this patch has edit to build.prop and lib files so the ril can connect to the gsm towers. If the op know CDMA workshop very well it may open doors . but I say look into getting a new device with gsm that can be unlocked to other gsm carriers
     
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    VM will not activate a Boost phone, period, no matter what the circumstances. I've already had this discussion with them.
     
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    Well of course they will tell you no, they want you to buy there phone. But usually if your phone does not have the carriers label on the phone then you are able to switch carriers, in our phones case Sprint, VM, and Boost are the only carriers that work for our phones, so with a not so simple edit to the build.prop and lib files and one of those carriers Sim that you desire, you can switch carriers. But like i said its not simple
     
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    And when the phones serial number comes up as a boost phone?
     
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    i has wayyyyy more to do with than a build.prop edit. You have to cheat the virgin mobile system into thinking your phone is on their list of serial numbers. Usually that entails the use of a donor phone and spoofing it onto the phone you want to use on their network. i read into when i wanted to use a evo 4g from sprint on the vm network years ago. It is also ILLEGAL.
     
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    It not only has to do with that but the serial is not a problem its the model number, most phones set a flag in the systems that dont support the model number. Although spoofing may work with a donor phone, we can all settle this by atleast trying to achieve this
     
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    the serial number is what you activate the phone with on each carriers network. Thats how cdma carriers work. the model number has nothing to do with it at all. People have been trying to do acheive this for years . But feel free to try all you want and if you get it you will be one of the very few that have acheived this.
     
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    Either way is it something that android forums would approve? Cuz im now interested in doing this
     
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    Sounds like more trouble than it's worth if you ask me, we have 2 networks to choose from
     
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    not to mention it is illegal .
     
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    Thank you!!

    Let's look at the whole deal -


    Cloning a phone id is illegal and most of the cookbooks telling how to do this revolve around that.

    There's a federal ruling now allowing unlocking (owned) phones from carriers but all of the language is directed at GSM technology (the majority), leaving room for some on-going fights from Sprint.

    In theory, you can take a donor phone and legally transfer its identity to the target phone - and you have to restrict capabilities to that provided by the donor and then safeguard the donor from use for the life of the target (so you can prove that you did a transfer rather than a clone).

    Your problems here go like this from this point -

    First, Boost and VM are owned by Sprint - if they ever catch you, be prepared for grief forever trying to get service from any of them.

    Secondly, there are a number of sites helping with this - in four years, I've only found one legal one and it's under an injunction to stop until all of this is sorted out. And I hope I don't have to spell out how much you don't want to do business with an illegal operation.

    Third, if you can find a cookbook strictly following every nuance of a transfer, if you get a complaint, mods are obliged to stop things and make an assessment. We're not all in agreement on this because a) we're not lawyers and b) even the lawyers don't agree. Don't expect a fair assessment even if you're right - we're not lawyers and we will err on the side of caution.

    Fourth, if you post about a cookbook that details cloning, even if you don't mean to, then you're posting about things that aide and abet the criminal phone theft industry and mods will go all hard core on this - leaving such things alone makes our forums either a potential accessory to crime or an accessory after the fact. Either way, we'll be having none of it.

    So there are your guidelines and constraints - please proceed with extreme caution.

    On a personal note - I think that the carriers are wrong to control your phone use like this.

    However - the law comes first, I am not a lawyer, and even if I were, I am not your lawyer.

    On a final note - if you do find the instructions you're going to discover that it takes a LOT of steps to accomplish this, it's far from playing with the build.prop, and your opportunities for bricking your phone are real and really easy to do.

    Nothing in this path is attractive or safe but you do what you think best.
     
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    no problem. Thanks for taking the time to type all that out. I really didnt feel like it lolol.
     
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    i think its most likely correct, carriers should not control phone
     
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