Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by papa j, Jun 28, 2011.
now i have this little fella on my phone what is it for and how do i use it .
It means you're rooted (or at least it should if it was added there using unrevoked)
All the application does is control root access (Super user access) for root applications (and remembers those permissions).
If you want to know what is possible now rooted, have a look at the rooting FAQ in the rooting forum
thanks and yes i have rooted using unrevoked method
so my next steps are rooting FAQ in the rooting forum
will be back to pick your brains trust me lol
No worries, enjoy the learning. There is a lot to get your head around but its worth it.
Right back again
I think I am lost or missed a step, I am at the point where I back everything up with titanium back up, also I seem to be lost as read a few guides, and all seem to be slightly different help
Just use the guides here as they are the most up to date.
What is the problem with titanium backup? What are you going to be doing?
ok ok need to explain a little more ......
i would like to keep the standard ROM that the phone came with but i would like to remove all the stuff orange added to it and as i also hear that after this update there is no chance of us getting anything new updates . then i might look at adding other roms and the rest of the goddies to my phone , as i have been following the should i upgared debate and i think i will be holding onto this phone for at least a year to 18months
Have you downloaded titanium backup yet
yes i have
Not sure if youre aware but removing system apps does not give you more space, so using titanium, identify the apps you dont want and you can freeze them instead.
came across a thread in the apps section that was talking about root/super user access being bad for us - due to your phone being wide open to nastiness from apps etc - is that the case?
....and if so - are you supposed to control it via superuser app? ive not really looked at it much before but just checked now and a few apps are listed there :/
They're right that in linux, it's stupid to run in root shell all the time due to vulnerabilities.
However who runs linux in root shell? What you do is log in as a standard user and if you install an app, you are prompted for root credentials. This lasts for that package manager or terminal session only and doesn't give root to other areas of the system.
Android is similar in that the superuser app doesn't prompt for a password. But you have to press allow. Something an application can't do.
As with an unrooted android device, all applications are sandboxed. No application can have access to anything unless you allow it. With the superuser app, you have double protection and rightly so.
Root itself is dangerous but we are somewhat protected.
Of course as with non root you still need to be vigilant with applications. Once you allow, its too late. Only allow what you know and understand.
My main issues are:
1-The ability to wipe any tracking software but factory reset does too.
2-if they know what they're doing, even if your phone is locked, they can get all your data.
2 is obviously a very big issue. I'd like see a way to protect recovery and fastboot with a password.
Also this data can be grabbed out of a nandroid backup too
thanks. a good post. yes I was thinking that the recovery stuff could do with some
explain why you think recovery could do with some protection?
too paranoid, people who make posts about the safety implications of rooting etc are either against it for whatever reason or are miss-educated or both.
recovery is only as good as the person using it, you would need to have particular scripts available on the sdcard that you would need to manually execute either by flashing from within a zip or mounting the various partitions and using adb to execute the commands you need.
this is all manual work and in most cases would need a computer available to do it
I've thought about this before. But recovery opens the gateway to use adb. if someone DOES know what they're doing, they can access the data. I could get dan's phone and access all his texts without booting the phone.