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General T-Mobile G2 hack proof?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by Dmtalon, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. Dmtalon

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    Well, just means you have to do the root process every time you reboot. Really, how often do you need to reboot, anyway? My G1 on CM6 has been on for a week or so.
     
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    That depends on whether they can also fix my G2 from crashing every few days... :/
     
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    What do you mean?
     
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    I mean that my home screen/ launcher has frozen up twice in the past week. If I need to reboot the phone every few days, having to reroot it is going to get pretty old pretty fast.

    Btw re: OP, the G2 isn't hack proof, don't worry. If there's a way for HTC to update it, there's a way for Cyanogen to update it. T-Mobile is just making it harder for everyone. For the time being, at least our phones are brick-proof, as it were.
     
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    My G2 has been restarting ramdomly. It happened three times this past week, and this morning the screen did not want to turn on. Anywho, I think they will find a work around to this hack-proof shit. Who does t-mobile think they are?
     
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    does anybody monitor the xda forums?

    i don't - they're just way too "busy" and it seems like they're talking in another language - lol

    but if anybody's keeping an eye on this issue over there... is there any progress? what's the current state of affairs??
     
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    Last I read they are trying to find where the boot original code is being stored so it can either be disabled or hacked. Haven't check it for the last few days though so they could of found it by now. I love those guys.

    Just checked it out from XDA Dev's Thinktank#2 posted by Disconn3ct
    "What we know now:
    - The eMMC supports setting a range of blocks temporarily or permanently read-only. That seems to be the case for the bootloader, /system and recovery.
    (From the datasheet: Specific segments of the iNAND may be permanently, power-on or temporarily write protected. Segment size can be programmed via the EXT_CSD register.)
    - The reason we can write to /system using "temproot" is that it is getting cached by linux. (Write-through, so the card is accepting and discarding writes but we are seeing the cached version only.) Flushing the cache removes all changes from system and upsets the kernel.
    - Because no changes are making it to the actual flash, rebooting removes all updates. It is not being magically reflashed.
    - It is not a rootkit. It is the OPPOSITE of a rootkit. Rooting it is much much more like a rootkit. Seriously.
    - OTA isn't an answer. The way it works: update.zip is downladed, and the key checked. saved to /cache, and an update script is written. it reboots to recovery. recovery checks the keys again, then runs the script to install it. there's no exploitable action there. It doesn't unlock the emmc, etc."
     
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    yeah.. reading all the forums over there is very much an exercise in observing stream of consciousness of the modding community - so by necessity there's a lot of chaff with some kernels of wheat thrown in there, if you're not actively engaged in that discussion its easy to be overwhelmed with all the posts

    but it is interesting to peek in on!
    :)
     
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    I like to check XDA periodically. Looks like HTC spent their G2 QC budget on trying to lock down the phone. So many problems so little phone.
     
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    hmm... that's interesting

    what about apps that were installed in a previous "life" (ie, while rooted)? they're still there and function correctly post re-boot/re-root




    [edit: checked out that thread, doesn't look like they've worked out all the chinks yet - still some challenges]
     
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    The OTA test rollout today means the read-only NAND isn't a bug. Cyanogen has a video posted load CM6 on his G2. So I think if they can capture the relevant info from the OTA they just might have permanent root in their sights. Personally I only really wanted root for the tethering, but since the OTA adds the tethering back in this might be my new phone.
     
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    interesting

    thx for posting
     
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    that's sort of my thinking too... with this new OTA rollout... very tempting to take the plunge with the G2 and say adios to AT&T... (for cost, more than anything, I haven't had that bad of service with them in the last few months...) but i'd like to save a few bucks each month...
     
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