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  1. astrobill

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    We all know the Sprint Hero has SIGNIFICANT problems with its Bluetooth implementation, and I, for one, am TIRED of waiting for Android 2.X to fix this. The significant problems and issues with the Hero's Bluetooth implementation include...

    - It DOES NOT properly ping for nearby Bluetooth devices that it's been paired with to make or restore previous connections automatically. This is a real problem (if not downright dangerous) for people who want to use hands-free calling with Bluetooth devices in their car, who have to go through the various Hero menus to restore the connection(s)

    - It does NOT support Bluetooth contact transfer (e.g., using OBEX and OPP) to car kits that are older (i.e., those that don't support the Phone Book Access Profile)

    - It does not support voice dialing with Bluetooth earpieces that support it (e.g., the Motorola H500 series). So you CANNOT do voice dialing with this phone...period. DANGEROUS for car use...the phone simply does not support true hands-free use!!!

    - Etc, etc.

    If Sprint and HTC are not going to get Android 2.x out ASAP (which is supposedly an improvement in the Bluetooth area), then they need to provide a NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT BLUETOOTH UPDGRADES, FIXES, and/or APPS for this phone. The Market apps (e.g., Medieval software's Bluetooth fix) don't support the Hero...WE NEED THE MANUFACTURER AND CARRIER TO FIX THIS DANGEROUS ISSUE WITH THE HERO ASAP!!

    Anyone agree?

    Regards,
    Astro
     

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    Check out this thread over on XDA
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=662349


    Technically speaking it's not really fixed in the 2.1 RUU either, and I really don't have any hope that it will be fixed in the official real release as well! JMHO:mad:
     
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    Lol, now that's funny...

    Anyway, the BT spec's and profiles included with the phone which enables BT function are clearly stated by the manufacturer. Also, within the 30 days if you were dissatisfied you could return it.

    I find this to be my biggest disappointment with the Hero, I agree and have done my homework on the BT issue with it in regards to the included BT profiles and such and 2.x updates. There will be no relief that I have found, now or in the future... Sorry, but it is, what it is...

    If BT was your main reason for getting the Hero then you will be real unhappy. For me, even though it is functionality I think is most ridiculous NOT to include on a smart phone, it didn't stop me from getting or loving what the Hero CAN do. :)

    :cool:
     
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    Astro, I have had ZERO problems using the Hero thru Bluetooth in my 09 Toyota. For clarification, my Toyota has factory Bluetooth as part of the JBL radio/NAV screen, not an after market setup. It pairs and connects automaticly when I start the car, incoming calls announce the callers name (on the screen), and all callers say it sounds fine, often don't know I am in the car when they call. I can push talk on my steering wheel, and select any of the speed dials (on the cars screen) that I have preset into the car. Toyota does de-activate some of the features while the car is in motion, but this is Toyota, and other than that, all is well for me. I have also tried music streaming using Pandora, and it works flawlessly also. I am sorry you are having problems with it. Hopefully, 2.1 will in fact help you.
     
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    It's really not even a problem with the Hero, it's more of a problem wtih the current BT stack that is being used! There seems to be a lot of problems across all android devices!
    It seems to be really hit or miss in the problems as well, for instance my samsung SBH500's work well on 1.5 but not on 2.1, others they work like ass on 1.5 and work well on 2.1!
    The funny thing is on WINMO phone use almost the same BT stack and guess what, they are easily able to adjust setting whereas on android not so easy, still trying to find the proper settings! Take a look at the thread above, I have put a lot of research into it!
     
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    My issue with BT is that I can have it on, and it will show connected but the phone and car seem to not see each other on an incoming call, or if it does work, it tends to drop the car after the call and the next call that comes in has to be taken on the hand set.

    There is some weirdness with the BT, my old Katana never had these issues with the car ( 2005 Dodge Magnum w/ Johnson Controls factory BT Handsfree system )

    -Robert
     
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    I have a Parrot MK6100 (bluetooth) in my car and I love it. This thing syncs with everything (so far). It uses my contact list with no effort. I don't like the bluetooth in the ear devices but I like having it in the car. As more and more states move to hands free this will become more important. Since I am retired USAF all the bases have moved to hands free. I praise the folks at Parrot more than the folks at HTC or Google.

    Norman
     
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    No voice dial is just plain stupid, I for some reason the audio quality with my OG jawbone is terrible compared to my 5 year old Samsung GAH!
     
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    Just had to say something about the areas of this post that I have highlighted in bold. The process of driving a car requires a massive amount of attention from the human brain. Think about everything you're doing while driving, putting pressure on the pedals, turning the wheel, listening to music, watching traffic, reading road signs, the brain is already multi-tasking while driving. Recent studies have shown that using a hands free device to talk on the phone while driving is not safer, but just as dangerous as holding the phone and talking while driving. So to put it simply, using your phone while driving is downright dangerous, hands free or not. Not to mention the fact that blue tooth earpieces are for space cadets, you look like a damn clown when you wear one (not trendy, hip, or 'down with it'). So if you talk on the phone while driving, text while driving, or drive drunk, I sincerely hope you hit a tree and die in fire.
     
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    This may be true, but I sincerely hope you don't hope for your last sentence for anyone.
     
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    How is talking on an auto-answer, hands-free conversation using a headset different from you talking to a passenger in your car, which can be MORE distracting, since you also tend to LOOK at the person?

    If you really mean what you said (and you did say "sincerely") then I, too, hope you hit a tree and die a horrible death in your car, Maximus. Also, you're fat.
     
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    So, why are there no Market Apps to fix this yet? The old Androbex/Bluex crap doesn't work on the Hero (if it works on ANY phone), and the Medieval software Bluetooth app specifically says it doesn't work on the Hero. Perhaps the latter will work on the Hero once it's got Android 2.x?
     
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    I hear ya. I keep hoping for an xda solution. Even my Winmo Blackjack II got a simple hack that routed all audio through the headset when bluetooth was connected.
    It's pretty silly that the visual voicemail app doesn't work through bluetooth.
     
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    Studies on distracted driving take into account speaking and interacting with passengers. Generally, speaking with a passenger is safer due to the fact that they are in the vehicle and will tend to end conversation for reasons of changes in traffic/weather situations and can also see if the driver is becoming too distracted to carry on conversation. As to the hit a tree and die in fire comment, I was a cop for two years and had the pleasure of seeing people killed and maimed by drivers who weren't paying attention to what they were doing behind the wheel, so I would much rather see the perpetrators injure only themselves and not other people around them. Of course the best solution other than the one previously mentioned is to not talk on the phone behind the wheel and pay attention to what you're doing. Yes I am fat, your eyes seem to be working and you have the mental capacity to type that observation, good job princess.
     
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    Regardless, if one looks like a clown using a Bluetooth headset or not, this last sentience is totally uncalled for.

    First of all you are doing three separate statements in one.

    legally, law-wise, it is illegal to drive holding and talking into your cell phone in many states,
    second, it is also illegal to drink and drive in most if not all states. (And I am sure in other countries as well)
    In many states it is also illegal to text and drive, but if you are using a bluetooth device and hand free cell kit it is not. So until that is also mandated as illegal, I do not see how it can be in the same category as drunk driving.
    Totally uncalled for.

    Also by stating to another member " I sincerely hope you hit a tree and die in fire" is way out of line.

    Please think before you write. Flaming will not be tolerated.

    TS out
     
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    If only they were slightly realistic. I would say, no they don't, and by the time they do (if ever), it's probably too late anyway! Otherwise, love the pseudo-scientific research (i.e. observational) study, but it doesn't mean a lot. Another observational could just as easily reach an entirely different conclusion. :)

    For me the single biggest thing has been lack of proper OBEX... dunno if that is in part related to your #2, as you are specifically talking about contacts. I would like to simply transfer pics and files to my bluetooth exchange folder. My antiquated SDA did this great. My cheap-o nokia 2760 even better because it was smart enough to turn on BT to send file, then turn it off automatically after file transfer so totally not necessary to leave it on (or require manual toggle). Hence, one of the hardest things for me to grasp as a new Android user is this perpetual reinvention of the wheel business.

    Voice dialing doesn't really concern me that much but it appears that some earpieces work? And car kits do this fine?

    As far as pinging/reconnect to paired device issue, I was not aware of this. Are you saying that in order to reconnect to paired devices when BT stack is on and other device is on, one must drill to the BT menu in settings versus auto pair between the two? That's disturbing if so.

    I was hoping the 3rd party app by Medieval would resolve much of this, but as already stated, it doesn't work on 1.5. I tried downloading an earlier version before eclair support was available. installs fine, then it loads then closes automatically (on moment), and I found that strange. Any ideas as to a proper earlier version? being a previous WINMO addict, and thus am totally used to and fine w/ 3rd party correcting native deficiencies, but things evolve on android at a much faster clip and it's frustrating that a still ubiquitous in 2010, 2009 mobile os ala 1.5 has so many limitations, and market fragmentation.
     
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    Your ignorance is very apparent and insulting. A bluetooth is a technolocical advancement in communication. I do not try to look like anything wearing one. If you do not know the advantages of a bluetooth then maybe you do not need android. By the way, the new Jawbone Icon is awsome! Just got it. TC
     
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    Heyyyy - no more BT problems since y 2.1 upgrade.
    Works a treat
     
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