The "Linux questions (and other stuff)" thread

[GameTheory]

Well KDE topped the list on a site I visit often. Lots good things were said about it. Maybe I'll give it a whirl one of these days.
https://itsfoss.com/best-linux-desktop-environments/

I've also got my eye on Budgie.

 

[MoodyBlues]

Well KDE topped the list on a site I visit often. Lots good things were said about it. Maybe I'll give it a whirl one of these days.
https://itsfoss.com/best-linux-desktop-environments/

I can't overstate its awesomeness! It's entirely customizable--so much so that you can easily lose yourself tweaking its settings. And it's so beautiful!

I've also got my eye on Budgie.

I'm not familiar with it. If you give it a try, maybe post some screenshots?

 

[MoodyBlues]

Here's a chunk of my error_log for the printer, including immediately after the most recent failed attempt. I have no idea what its references to 'dirty files' means, but it doesn't sound good.

I uninstalled and reinstalled the printer. I also plugged it into a different USB port. When my helper gets home, I'll try plugging the printer into a laptop and see what happens.

D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:27 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 12 1.1 CUPS-Get-Classes 1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:27 -0800] CUPS-Get-Classes
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:27 -0800] Returning IPP successful-ok for CUPS-Get-Classes (no URI) from localhost
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:27 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:27 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 12 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:27 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:27 -0800] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:27 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 12 1.1 CUPS-Get-Default 1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:27 -0800] CUPS-Get-Default
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:27 -0800] Returning IPP successful-ok for CUPS-Get-Default (no URI) from localhost
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:27 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files
I [31/Jan/2019:12:51:49 -0800] Saving job cache file "/var/cache/cups/job.cache"...
I [31/Jan/2019:12:51:49 -0800] Saving subscriptions.conf...
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:49 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Not busy
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:49 -0800] Report: clients=3
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:49 -0800] Report: jobs=16
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:49 -0800] Report: jobs-active=1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:49 -0800] Report: printers=1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:49 -0800] Report: printers-implicit=0
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:49 -0800] Report: stringpool-string-count=3536
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:49 -0800] Report: stringpool-alloc-bytes=8992
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:49 -0800] Report: stringpool-total-bytes=78120
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:56 -0800] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "lo" = localhost:631
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:56 -0800] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "wlan0" = 192.168.1.108:631
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:56 -0800] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "lo" = localhost:631
D [31/Jan/2019:12:51:56 -0800] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "wlan0" = fe80::211:50ff:fed4:1062%wlan0:631
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdAcceptClient: 14 from localhost (Domain)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 14 POST /printers/HP-Deskjet-f4100 HTTP/1.1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 14 1.1 Print-Job 1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] Print-Job ipp://localhost/printers/HP-Deskjet-f4100
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(----J-)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] add_job: requesting-user-name="moody"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] Adding default job-sheets values "none,none"...
I [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] Adding start banner page "none".
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(-----S)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(----J-)
I [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] Adding end banner page "none".
I [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] File of type application/vnd.cups-command queued by "moody".
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] hold_until=0
I [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] Queued on "HP-Deskjet-f4100" by "moody".
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(----J-)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients, printing jobs, and dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(-----S)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] job-sheets=none,none
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] argv[0]="HP-Deskjet-f4100"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] argv[1]="412"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] argv[2]="moody"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] argv[3]="Test Page"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] argv[4]="1"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] argv[5]="job-uuid=urn:uuid:971e1935-073b-3a6d-7cb0-0b6ea66998b4 job-originating-host-name=localhost"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] argv[6]="/var/spool/cups/d00412-001"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[0]="CUPS_CACHEDIR=/var/cache/cups"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[1]="CUPS_DATADIR=/usr/share/cups"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[2]="CUPS_DOCROOT=/usr/share/cups/doc-root"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[3]="CUPS_FONTPATH=/usr/share/cups/fonts"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[4]="CUPS_REQUESTROOT=/var/spool/cups"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[5]="CUPS_SERVERBIN=/usr/lib/cups"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[6]="CUPS_SERVERROOT=/etc/cups"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[7]="CUPS_STATEDIR=/var/run/cups"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[8]="HOME=/var/spool/cups/tmp"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[9]="PATH=/usr/lib/cups/filter:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[10]="SERVER_ADMIN=root@Compaq"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[11]="SOFTWARE=CUPS/1.4.1"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[12]="TMPDIR=/var/spool/cups/tmp"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[13]="TZ=America/Los_Angeles"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[14]="USER=root"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[15]="CUPS_SERVER=/var/run/cups/cups.sock"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[16]="CUPS_ENCRYPTION=IfRequested"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[17]="IPP_PORT=631"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[18]="CHARSET=utf-8"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[19]="LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[20]="PPD=/etc/cups/ppd/HP-Deskjet-f4100.ppd"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[21]="RIP_MAX_CACHE=110860k"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[22]="CONTENT_TYPE=application/vnd.cups-command"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[23]="DEVICE_URI=hp:/usb/Deskjet_f4100_series?serial=CN7432W1CS04Tj"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[24]="PRINTER_INFO=HP Deskjet f4100"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[25]="PRINTER_LOCATION=Compaq"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[26]="PRINTER=HP-Deskjet-f4100"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[27]="CUPS_FILETYPE=document"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] envp[28]="FINAL_CONTENT_TYPE=printer/HP-Deskjet-f4100"
I [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/commandtops (PID 2627)
I [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp (PID 2628)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(-----S)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] Returning IPP successful-ok for Print-Job (ipp://localhost/printers/HP-Deskjet-f4100) from localhost
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Printing jobs and dirty files
E [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] Invalid printer command "Clean"!
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] Set job-printer-state-message to "Invalid printer command "Clean"!", current level=ERROR
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(-----S)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(-----S)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] PID 2627 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/commandtops) exited with no errors.
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] [Job 412] prnt/backend/hp.c 802: ERROR: null print job total=0
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] PID 2628 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp) stopped with status 1!
I [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] [Job 412] Backend returned status 1 (failed)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] set_hold_until: hold_until = 1548968240
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(----J-)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(-----S)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdAcceptClient: 15 from localhost (Domain)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 15 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 15 1.1 Get-Notifications 1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Get-Notifications /
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdIsAuthorized: requesting-user-name="moody"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Returning IPP successful-ok for Get-Notifications (/) from localhost
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 15 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 15 1.1 Get-Job-Attributes 1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Get-Job-Attributes ipp://localhost/jobs/412
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Returning IPP successful-ok for Get-Job-Attributes (ipp://localhost/jobs/412) from localhost
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdAcceptClient: 18 from localhost (Domain)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 18 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 18 1.1 Get-Notifications 1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Get-Notifications /
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdIsAuthorized: requesting-user-name="moody"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Returning IPP successful-ok for Get-Notifications (/) from localhost
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdAcceptClient: 19 from localhost (Domain)
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 12 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 18 WAITING Closing on EOF
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdCloseClient: 18
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 19 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 19 1.1 Get-Notifications 1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Get-Notifications /
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdIsAuthorized: requesting-user-name="moody"
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Returning IPP successful-ok for Get-Notifications (/) from localhost
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 12 1.1 CUPS-Get-Printers 1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] CUPS-Get-Printers
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Returning IPP successful-ok for CUPS-Get-Printers (no URI) from localhost
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 12 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 12 1.1 CUPS-Get-Classes 1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] CUPS-Get-Classes
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Returning IPP successful-ok for CUPS-Get-Classes (no URI) from localhost
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 12 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 12 1.1 CUPS-Get-Default 1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] CUPS-Get-Default
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Returning IPP successful-ok for CUPS-Get-Default (no URI) from localhost
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 19 WAITING Closing on EOF
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdCloseClient: 19
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 16 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 16 1.1 CUPS-Get-Printers 1
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] CUPS-Get-Printers
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] Returning IPP successful-ok for CUPS-Get-Printers (no URI) from localhost
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files
D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] cupsdReadClient: 16 POST / HTTP/1.1

 

[Deleted User]

• E [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] Invalid printer command "Clean"!

• D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] [Job 412] Set job-printer-state-message to "Invalid printer command "Clean"!", current level=ERROR

• D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(-----S)

• D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] cupsdMarkDirty(-----S)

• D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:19 -0800] PID 2627 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/commandtops) exited with no errors.

• D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] [Job 412] prnt/backend/hp.c 802: ERROR: null print job total=0

• D [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] PID 2628 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp) stopped with status 1!

• I [31/Jan/2019:12:52:20 -0800] [Job 412] Backend returned status 1 (failed)

That's where it all falls apart. Is it a driver issue?

 

[Deleted User]

Driver for your printer http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-DeskJet_F4100

 

[MoodyBlues]

Driver for your printer http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-DeskJet_F4100

I'm just lost.

What happened to the driver that's kept this thing printing for >12 years? Did it spontaneously combust?!

 

[bcrichster]

I'm just lost.

What happened to the driver that's kept this thing printing for >12 years? Did it spontaneously combust?!

Some newer Linux distros are dropping older drivers from their kernels, that may be your case..??

 

[MoodyBlues]

Some newer Linux distros are dropping older drivers from their kernels, that may be your case..??

No...definitely not. As posted recently in this thread, that particular computer is running Kubuntu 9.10--a 10-year-old version.

Absolutely NOTHING has been changed on this computer in years--no OS updates, no printer driver updates, nothing.

 

[Deleted User]

No...definitely not. As posted recently in this thread, that particular computer is running Kubuntu 9.10--a 10-year-old version.

Absolutely NOTHING has been changed on this computer in years--no OS updates, no printer driver updates, nothing.

Very odd. I just suggested a driver issue because my cursory search turned that up as a possible cause. But I agree, quite strange to develop this problem if no updates have happened.

 

[Dngrsone]

Cosmic rays-- they'll corrupt anything, given time.

 

[Dngrsone]

Looks like you have a Realtek RTL8191SE wifi module. One site lists the probable Linux driver as rtl8192se

I am not familiar with Bodhi, so I can't really help you with that side of it. Can you plug in with a network cable?

 

[Davdi]

You could try Ubuntu 18.04 (LXDE/XFCE), The Long Term Support version, Mint (XFCE or MATE versions are most suitable for older computers)
I'm running an old HP deskjet F2480 on Linux Mint 18.3 and the drivers just loaded when I connected the printer via USB.

 

[Dngrsone]

Your best bet--assuming you want to install--is to perform the install while plugged in to the internet. The installation script will install all kinds of updates and may even install the appropriate drivers (there should be a question during the process asking if you want to look for and install third-party drivers).

Also, do a search for your model and "Linux" or whichever distro you are using as keywords, then again with Toshiba and Linux or distro or the desktop environment you are installing (@davidi is correct, Mint xfce or MATE are both good resource-friendly distros).

In fact, I am running a couple flavors of Mint on a Toshiba laptop, so you might find one of my threads pop up during your search.

 

[MoodyBlues]

Thanks for the reply. The wired nic works just fine (in fact I'm on AF with the laptop running Bodhi Linux Live). I'm not sure if that driver will work...but I'm still at a loss to know how even to try it.

I had looked at this link: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=74182 and found a tar.gz folder here: http://www.opendrivers.com/download/driver-147387.html ... but after downloading it I don't know how to extract the files or install the driver. Or perhaps I can't do that in a live cd session?

I had to get on a laptop to [easily] read this thread, what with my giant 'code' block above, which made the page unbearable on a phone, so sorry for the delay!

Honestly, it's been so long since I used Bodhi (at least 5 years) and, as I mentioned, it wasn't even being maintained when I last checked, that I can't remember for sure if its installation on an old HP laptop needed anything extra, like WiFi drivers. This was circa the days of using ndiswrapper [at a command line...*sigh*] to even be able to use wireless with the infamous Broadcom 43xx window$-only card. I can't even remember now which HP laptop that was...it was before my dv7...I just can't think of it. But my point being, it was OLD at the time. I had installed the then-current Kubuntu version on it, and that's when it said, nope!, can't do this... It ran like frozen molasses! So instead of downgrading back to the previous Kubuntu, I went in search of a lightweight distro and found Bodhi, and liked it a lot, and recommended it for resurrecting old hardware. I'm happy to hear it's apparently been resurrected itself!

I'd do what's been suggested, try other distros. I refuse to believe that in 2019 there exists a Linux that doesn't do wireless out of the box.

 

[palmtree5]

I had to get on a laptop to [easily] read this thread, what with my giant 'code' block above, which made the page unbearable on a phone, so sorry for the delay!

Honestly, it's been so long since I used Bodhi (at least 5 years) and, as I mentioned, it wasn't even being maintained when I last checked, that I can't remember for sure if its installation on an old HP laptop needed anything extra, like WiFi drivers. This was circa the days of using ndiswrapper [at a command line...*sigh*] to even be able to use wireless with the infamous Broadcom 43xx window$-only card. I can't even remember now which HP laptop that was...it was before my dv7...I just can't think of it. But my point being, it was OLD at the time. I had installed the then-current Kubuntu version on it, and that's when it said, nope!, can't do this... It ran like frozen molasses! So instead of downgrading back to the previous Kubuntu, I went in search of a lightweight distro and found Bodhi, and liked it a lot, and recommended it for resurrecting old hardware. I'm happy to hear it's apparently been resurrected itself!

I'd do what's been suggested, try other distros. I refuse to believe that in 2019 there exists a Linux that doesn't do wireless out of the box.

ahh, the good ol days of futzing with drivers to get wifi working lol

 

[lunatic59]

I haven't bumped my head against a driver issue for at least 10 years and the last one was getting a printer working with odd sized paper (Brother, I think, but that's long gone).

 

[Dngrsone]

Speaking of drivers... I may have mentioned that I was going to give KDE Neon a spin.

I wiped my oldest Mint partitions and installed on those, but when I booted from the drive, I got a black screen and a mouse cursor. That's it. I could move the cursor around with my mouse, but no left- or right-clicking, the keyboard seemed unresponsive... bupkis.

I tried Alt-F2, and such; nothing.

Well, it took me a couple hours off-and-on, but I discovered that 18.04 (Neon is based off Kubuntu 18.04 but keeps Plasma up-to-date with the latest stable version) dropped a few drivers.

I also rediscovered, by accident hah, that the key combination for the terminals is Ctrl+Alt+[F-key]; so I was able to get to the terminal, add the video drivers ppa and install. So, fixed the problem by installing the appropriate drivers.

 

[Dngrsone]

I recall having sound issues with Mint... as I recall, the sound was muted by default... ah, it was specifically with the BT interface.

 

[Dngrsone]

Well, my second hiccup (or hiccough, if you prefer) involved Discovery (the KDE Neon version of SSOftware Center) dying right off the bat.

Turned out, that my Logitech Universal Receiver required an update, and somehow that borked Discovery.

Next up: Firefox Multi-Account containers not allowing me to log into KDE Identities...

 

[lunatic59]

I haven't used OO of a PC in ages, but isn't Libre the same thing only better?

 

[lunatic59]

Isn't Micro$oft Office the same thing, only better? Especially for Micro$oft shareholders?

Only the Apple version.

 

[MoodyBlues]

I haven't used OO of a PC in ages, but isn't Libre the same thing only better?

Its backstory has become fuzzy in my brain, but this is how I think of it, too. Like OpenOffice morphed into LibreOffice...or something.

 

[lunatic59]

Like Redhat desktop became Fedora.

 

[Dngrsone]

OpenOffice was bought by Apache, who promptly lost most of their staff. Libre Office is an as-yet-still open-source fork of OO. With that in mind, I feel LO is better maintained than OO.

 

[MoodyBlues]

Here's a "scratch our collective heads" puzzle--which doesn't require a solution. It's just for fun.

Some videos I took shortly before my mom died (in March 2013) have very funny timestamps. These would've been taken with my Moto Atrix 2; I transferred all of its files when I got my Moto X 2nd Generation. And, recently, when I got my Moto Z² Force Edition, I transferred everything over to it. At some point along the way, I also copied these videos to my network's hard drives.

The screenshots show one video's details on the Moto X and then the Moto Z. Notice anything weird about their timestamps?

On the X, the 2015 date was probably when I copied it over from the Atrix. But on the Z...WTF is up with the 'date taken' in 1947?!

I didn't bother including screenshots from my computers, but when these videos' properties are viewed there, their timestamps are correct.

Any ideas what's up here?