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  1. MoodyBlues

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    Hey guys, this person still needs help with his dd problem. (Now he thinks I don't know what '-seek' is, when I actually had asked where he got its [very big] value, and if he was sure it was correct. :rolleyes:)

    As noted earlier, I need help. Help! :eek:

    :D :D
     

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    @MoodyBlues

    Does Kubuntu let you move the panel to the top and make it transparent like frosted glass? (this is deal breaker if not possible)

    I'm trying to decide what I will be installing on my lenovo laptop. I used ubuntu for many years then last year switched to xubuntu and been loving it. Aside from the above I'm looking for good Wacom support which all the gnome de distros have. I heard kubuntu also has good wacom support with a proper gui for adjusting settings on the fly.

    Obviously xubuntu is at the top of my list, but has no gui for wacom, though it comes with the libs as do all *buntus. Ubuntu Budgie is my second choice so far. I tried it and is fantastic and so far has everything I want.
     
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    You can move it to the top, easy. Don't know about the transparency thing, though.
     
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    Yes. It will take some time--not because there's anything difficult about it, but because of the infinite choices you'll have in front of you.

    Themes, colors, opacity, style, effects...it just goes on and on. So you're likely to find yourself trying 1,000 combinations before finally settling on what you like best.
     
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    Well I just spent the past 3 hours using kubuntu, but it didn't fit my needs and will not be using it. It didn't have the deep level of customization that xubuntu has. Also suffered from the same lack of proper wacom support as xubuntu.

    One thing that impressed me about kubuntu is that it is now just as light weight as xubuntu. After putting both OSes through their paces, they both hover on idle at about 500mg of ram usage. Very impressive! :thumbsupdroid:

    Now ubuntu budgie doesn't have the level of customization as the previous two, but it has everything I want out of the box. Including proper wacom support and even supporting pressure sensitive digitizer. It does however consume 3 times as much ram as xubuntu & kubuntu at around 1.4gb on idle. :eek: :eek:

    Will check a couple other distros before making my decision.

    Edit:
    Just found a repo on github to add wacom tablet to kubuntu. Unfortunately still coming up short on frosted glass panel.
     
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    I'm truly baffled by this, because I know how it can literally take days to step through all of its options.

    Can you give us an idea of the 'deep level' you're looking for? Like specific goals/objectives.
    Hmmm...
     
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    Nah doesn't take days to step through the options. There's a lot, but they're mostly centralized in system settings. I've been customizing distros for a long time, so I'm used to it now.

    Objectives:
    Kubuntu has tons of options, but they're presets that you can enable/disable. What I'm looking for is the added options to be able to dial-in my own hex color codes and opacity which xubuntu has. I also need proper wacom support out of the box, not some janky work-around like in kubuntu and xubuntu.

    I was over on the reddit forums and they claim that these are features that they're waiting to see if the kde team adds to the distro.

    Not a big deal, a distro is not meant for everyone. Ubuntu Budgie has checked most of the boxes so perhaps I'll settle on that. Thanks for your time. :)

    In other news, just got a new article in my google feed about the release of linux mint 19.2. Gonna check that out, though I've never been a fan of mint. Last time a tried it, it had some bugs and reminded me of windows xp.

    By the way here's a screenshot of my xubuntu setup which is what I'm trying to replicate on my next distro...
     

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    So something like...

    tmp_AF_panel_smaller.jpeg

    I didn't take the time to actually fine-tune it. I just wanted to show that at least on my ancient 14.04 Kubuntu system, it's doable.

    ETA: I think I've come off sounding like "it's my way or the highway!"--and that's not my intent. I'm perfectly fine with my favorite distro not being someone else's. I've harped on it because I believe it can look/feel the way you want, through a combination of settings. But if it's not for you, no problem! One of my biggest reasons for loving Linux is choice, and that includes distros. :D
     
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    From what I gather kubuntu changed a lot since 14.04 and so have many other distros. Latest is 18.04.2.

    The guys on reddit claim that you can't change panel opacity while having a dark theme enabled in 18.04. There's no opacity slider or hex input. I was able to get a transparent panel by installing a transparent theme, but it also made everything light.

    Also as mentioned before, out the box wacom support is needed which not even my favorite distro has.

    It's alright Moody, I'm taking ubuntu budgie for another spin and downloading some other distros to try. Thanks
     
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    Wow, didn't see this coming! :eek: Mx Linux took the top spot from Manjaro and Mint which have been duking it out for the top spot for some time...

    https://distrowatch.com/

    Downloading it now to give it a whirl.
     
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    What does it say about how out of the loop I am that I hadn't even HEARD of MX Linux?!

    I do hope you're going to give us a rundown once you've given it a whirl. :)
     
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    Yeah just swing by Distro Watch every once in awhile and you'll stay in the loop in the linux-sphere.

    Actually, I put MX on hold. I started playing with kubuntu again because I'm stubborn. :rolleyes:

    So the kde team said on reddit that they removed panel tuning from the latest version because "it cluttered the ui". I disagree.

    Anyways, I found a work-around to get a translucent panel while on a dark theme. It's not ideal and cannot set level of opacity, but works.

    I'll post how to do it in a bit for those like me that must have this. (solid panels are sooo windows xp :p)
     
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    Oh, you know I'm happy to hear that! :D

    I don't want to tell you stuff you already know, so I'll try to be brief. Using combinations of settings, such as those found under Application Appearance, Desktop Effects, and Workspace Appearance, and making use of downloaded Window Decorations and Desktop Themes, and really digging deep into tweaking each part, *almost* anything is possible. I'm taking into account our wildly different versions, which may mean some things aren't possible--or apparently not possible.

    Just keep in mind that the statements about this or that no longer being part of its base package, doesn't mean you can't still achieve it with a little time and effort. Fine tuning things like Style and Color under Application Appearance is a good place to start.
     
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    After a false alarm a couple years ago, it looks like Linux Journal has now reached its end-of-life. This makes me very sad. :(
     
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    For those of you that like to test different distros, but hate having to download isos and burn them to a thumb drive, check this out...

    This free service lets you test the distro in your browser without installing or downloading anything. :eek:
    https://distrotest.net/

    Do keep in mind that because it runs in your browser it will be a bit slow.
     
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    Wow, what a great find! Thanks for sharing.
     
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    I found it interesting that Steam seemed to be at least somewhat preinstalled on Manjaro (just switched the linux distro on my laptop from ubuntu to manjaro this past weekend actually)
     
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    I haven't tried it yet, but from what I've seen it's a nice distro. It's been in the top ten for a while now. Which desktop did you choose?

    I've seen a youtuber who's channel is all about Manjaro.
     
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    "Some say it's the BEST Linux laptop money can buy.

    New Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Announced, Powered by Ubuntu."

    Well, I'm partial to System76 laptops, but this one does look good--with one exception: its tiny 13" screen. What's up with that? :eek:
     
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    That XPS is absolutely stunning! Looks like carbon fibre which happens to be my favorite look. I'm however partial to lenovo which also have systems pre-installed with ubuntu.

    It's funny, throw windows on a machine and it's just another machine. Throw linux on it and it's a "Developer Edition". :D :cool:

    13" is great for developers on the move. Then you can just plug in a large monitor when you're stationary.
     
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    I like that look, too.
    I'm thrilled to see more and more computers shipping with Linux pre-installed, and as a very early adopter of Ubuntu, of course I love that it's the distro of choice. But it hasn't eliminated one initial step I've performed for decades when getting a new computer: installing my own favorite distro. It used to involve wiping window$ off the drive...and now it involves changing Ubuntu to Kubuntu. I'm still pleased, though, at Ubuntu's prominence.
    Well, I'm sure it has something to do with Linux's built-in tools, which window$ lacks. And, really, any developer worth their salt is probably using Linux. At least I like to think so. :)
    Yes, you're right about that. But despite its name (since I'm not developing anything but bedsores these days), I'd be interested in it, at a higher price-point of course, with a 17"+ screen. I'm so used to my System76 laptop's 17.3" display, I really couldn't/wouldn't want to step back down.
     
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    The 17.3" display was just a little too big for me-- too hard to find a decent bag for toting it around, heavy, and awkward.

    I'm fine with my 15.6" lappy; though I'm sorely tempted to go to a hybrid machine.
     
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    I had a dell studio 17.3" and my experience was identical to yours. Too big!
     
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    My situation is different from yours, so I haven't had the need to carry it around. I do have a bag big enough for it, but it's lost somewhere in my closet. :eek:

    The few times I've picked up the laptop, it didn't feel unusually heavy. But that would likely change if I had to carry it around all day. :)
     
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