Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by comma, splice, Sep 7, 2012.
This is the best post ever. Commenting about ads yet he subjects all of us to one. Hahahahahahahha.
That is pretty funny!
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If you use the first generation fire as an example, then you'll probably see that the fire hd will never get jelly bean. The first gen fire released with gingerbread and about the time we should have seen an OS upgrade, we see a whole new tablet from Amazon. I think it's why we saw fewer updates through out the last year. I'm betting that Amazon repeats this same behaviour next year...
As disturbing as that thought is, it would drive sales of the hardware and put more Amazon ecosystem into people's hands.
It seems plausible enough.
The KF kept me quite content as I got it immediately when it was released. Up until about two months ago I began to not use it as much. I still like it alot but when the Nexus 7 came out, I felt the need to see what all the fuss was.
I wasn't completely thrilled with it when I first bought it but after awhile I knew I couldn't live without it and the new Fire HD will not cut it.
The reasons for me are Jelly Bean and the Google Play Store. You can still install the Amazon app store but you will never have access to the Play Store if you aren't a rooter.
Jelly Bean is the real deal. The more I dive into it, the more I know it is. And I never rooted any device I have so to have access to this OS on a device as good as the Nexus 7 is at this price works for me!!
I purchased the Kindle Fire around Christmas time with the thought of rooting it. I quickly became tired of the interface and never really came around to getting it customized. I found a few bugs that never got fixed, and the updates were more centric to pushing more Amazon features (a tactic that Apple does with iTunes) than fixing issues. Don't get me wrong, issues did get fixed, but just not that many.
Reasons to stay with Nexus:
- Much, much more customizable
- Jelly Bean 4.1
- Updates will come from Google, and will be more frequent
- Reasonably better hardware.
Reasons (for me) to stay away from Fire HD:
- The interface. Don't like to be locked into the same old thing.
- No Google Play store. I don't like the idea of re-buyingmy apps.
- Jelly Bean unlikely to happen
- Ads. I plunk down that much money and you're still going to push ads????
- Slow updates.
I am intrigued about this attempt at faster wifi, but I'm betting it's going to be more problematic in the beginning...
I have the original Fire. I actually have two Fires on my account. I bought the Nexus in August. The more I used the Fire the more the carousel annoyed me. I installed Go on it, which improved it, but it really annoyed me that every book I bought showed up on the carousel, even though I had it delivered to my Kindle.
So I bought the Nexus and am really happy with it. DH uses the Fire a bit, but mostly the grandson plays games on it. I wondered if I would be tempted or regret the Nexus when the new Fires were announced...but I don't.
I don't know what Bacon is, but I do know what bacon is. I have an image of someone testing out the limit of the oliophobic coating by tapping out on the screen with a couple rashers of bacon...
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Meh, the KHD is even more constrained than the N7, since both are sans a sd slot, but the KHD more locked down and stuck with the Amazon market. Both devices are cloud corralling, so pick your poison. Now, if the KHD had a micro sd slot, that would tip the balance some....
Still, for the cloud adhering consumer, or people that just read or want streaming content, the KHD seems a better value, due to the (per reviewers) apparent better & bigger display and build quality.
(2)go to amazon.com
(3) menu -> request desktop site
Bam. All the amazon ecosystem you can swallow.. including Prime video.
Due to the unpopularity of the ads, Amazon has announced that users will be able to opt out of the "special offers" on their KF HDs for an extra $15. Kindle Fire HD line will allow users to opt out of ‘Special Offers’ - SlashGear
That fixed add thing was dumb of Amazon. They ticked people off, trying to get the low price point. Tunnel vision by their marketing folks.
I don't really find it sad or offensive.
They should have offered it up front, but it adds a choice. You can pay for the hardware by seeing ads, or pay for the hardware with your wallet.
Frankly, I don't mind the ads on my e-Ink Kindle. I am happy to have the choice of buying a cheaper e-reader.
That was the issue with me, not having the choice. Now I can look at it as a Kindle Fire HD costs $215 but if I want to save $15, I can go with the ads.
Too many Google apps don't work on Amazon kindle. I love the Nexus 7
The N7 has a quad core SOC w/12 core GPU and project butter fueling it's engines... I saw a hands-on of the Fire HD and the guy was saying it lags. Plus you could see it lagging on web surfing. So far my N7 does NOT lag. So to pay $50 extra for lag... I can not recommend this option to anyone. I say stick with the pure Android experience you get with the Nexus and save your $50 for something else. Lots of good stuff will be coming out soon with NO lag and no ads either. Like the new nexus phones for instance. Or the quad core Acer a110 w/Jelly Bean.
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My Mom enjoys her original Kindle Fire. She reads and watches videos, she also is subscribed to Amazon Prime. I cannot stand it, even before I had a Nexus 7. The nexus7 is so much smoother, lighter, and faster. Also, their version of Android is horrible, and I find it quite hard to use. The new Fires might be faster and more responsive, but imagine their software to still be horrible.
My Daughter has the kf and loves it. I have the N7 and I won't change. My wife wants the fhd. Go figure! It is all personal choice.
As far as ads on the lockscreen... It's a lockscreen! Its not like it will bug once you unlock it... I've even heard some of the deals are unbelievably good (I'll have the wife tell me when she sees something I might like. win~win)!
are the deals exclusively for KFHD owners?
Now I am totally. I followed the link above for Amazon prime videos/movies. While on the CDs site so many people are saying prime members CANNOT access the Amazon free leading library. Someone else said they purchased a book but was not able to download it.
Does anyone no for sure that prime are able to access prime books free/purchased books? I'm not too concerned about the streaming, I just want full access to the books free and purchases.
I watched a video on CNET that "confirmed" the use for prime users minus movies but not sure if it's totally accurate. For all I now, he could have downloaded the app, bought a stylus using prime account and concluded that everything else works fine...except movies.
I really want the Nexus 7 but if I can't access prime then there's no use for it for me. I want to read books mostly, but would enjoy a little Web surfing. And the look of the KDHD is sickening.