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  1. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User
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    Still waiting for Rev to release to try first, but this infoSync dude is usually pretty straight forward.

    Motorola Droid X2 Review

    ,,,, I might go ahead and buy this try it and then test the Rev... Not looking like the Rev is hitting on the 26th. Can test the X2 in the meantime.

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  2. Heelpir8

    Heelpir8 Member

    Sigggh....was all about picking the DX2 over the Droid Charge until I got to the part about the mediocre camera performance. :-(
  3. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User
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    For me, phone cameras are impulse conveniences. If better than the Incredible's, I will be happy.
  4. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User
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  5. Heelpir8

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  6. SirKronan

    SirKronan Android Expert

    From samples that I've seen, it's not much better than the original DX, which is sad. I owned a DX and the photos were pretty good, but still noticeably worse than the Fascinate. HTC improved their camera a tremendous amount with the Thunderbolt/Desire. But Samsung came out and obliterated them with the new camera on the Charge, which should also be on the SGSII.

    I've seen photos from the Charge. They are simply astounding, as far as cell phone pics go. They are a good measure better than even the iPhone 4. Samsung has destroyed other camera phones with what they've put on the Charge and SGSII for a camera.

    Fortunately, camera is a secondary function for most, and as a phone the DX was unmatched - therefore I expect the DX2 to be just as amazing when it comes to phone quality.

    I, personally, am hoping Verizon does nearly NOTHING to the SGSII, because as it stands now, the thing has dual noise cancelling mics, and voice quality is much improved over original Galaxy S and variants. That's the phone that will get me my good telephone quality, my great camera, and the best screen money can buy right now. I can't wait until Verizon gets the "Function", even though that name is about as stupid as it gets ... until you look at what Sprint and AT&T are calling their SGSII variants, if rumors hold true. :eek:
  7. Bearly

    Bearly Android Expert

    Totally agree.

    I hope the Function comes out before tiered data kicks in. That's my only real concern.

    If the Function launches with 2.3 and no GPS issues, that's the phone I'll stick to, even without LTE (which I don't think it'll get, so as to not compete with the Charge).

    I think it's important to look at a company's pedigree/area(s) of expertise.

    Samsung = cameras (digital imaging), screens

    Motorla = mobile phones (long history), audio

    This, I feel, gives some insight as to the user experience of respective finished product.

    Also, I believe only Moto has created a separate mobile division, which I would assume would impact the speed at which software updates are developed for its phones. I'm not sure how Samsung has divvied up its resources and how much is allocated to its mobile division, if it's even a separate entity like what Moto has created.

    I personally wish the Atrix would come to Verizon. The chassis is the perfect size for me and the battery life is allegedly great.
  8. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User
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    Current reports are the DX2 radios rock for signal, so (respectfully) considering the device is first a phone, I will take great radio reception ANY day over a great camera. Droid Charge has a GREAT camera, but the radios are not as good for reception as the DX1 (sans the 4G of course).

    The DX1 took pretty good pics, but was sloooow. The Dx2 takes good pics and is fast. For great radios as a trade-off, it seems academic for me.

    Had they put more internal storage, the DX2 would be sweeter, but I can put the negative spin on almost ANY device. My M11X was the first device I could not ding. It is a near perfect little beast.


    Final game for me is DX2 and Rev

    Unless the Rev wows me with as good radio reception, is easy to root and has a IPS display, I will probably buy the DX2.
  9. Vehtemas

    Vehtemas Android Expert

    I am leaning VERY heavily on the DX2 since LTE isn't in the northern part of Ohio and won't be for quite some time, not to mention so far it has been buggy as hell.

    But I would love to get a 2 year contract on 30 unlimited 4g for when it is up here...
  10. SirKronan

    SirKronan Android Expert

    Both good points. It's too bad we have to choose between so many almost wonderful devices on Verizon. Why can't they just release one that does it all right? The Charge has last year's CPU. The Droid X2 has pentile and no 4G (4G not a big deal to me, but a huge deal to many). The Thunderbolt has poor battery life without some significant configurations and optimizations (vs. my Droid X that had great battery life out of the box). So many phones that are almost there.

    Unless Verizon botches their variant of the SGSII, I'm holding out hope that it will be THE phone. It already is THE phone if you live in Europe. Reception, voice quality, camera, speed, form factor, screen ... it's ALL there. I mean ALL there. The grips are few and far between, and for the most part leaning towards the minuscule. The U.S. contract carriers need a phone like that.
  11. dguy

    dguy Android Expert

    The X2 is so much better than the Charge and TB that I'd take the X2 over either even if I lived and worked in an area with LTE.
  12. jinwons

    jinwons Android Expert

    I just saw SGSII vs G2x dogfight review by Aaron at phonedog. SGSII is amazing phone in nearly every aspect. It easily smokes G2x with Tegra2, stock 2.2 even though it has TouchWz 4.0 UI on 2.3. Since DX2 has the same processor, amount of RAM as G2x but also Blur UI, qHD screen, I think it doesn't hold chance against SGSII when it drops into U.S. I really envy those folks in Europe. U.S carriers are really bad guys.
  13. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User
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    Catch is, by the time the dual Snap devices land at VZW, unlimited data will be long gone. CFO officially stated by this summer.

    People that get a 4g device with tiered data will be stunned how pointless it is.

    4g and tiered data is a contradiction in premise. Think about it. What is the point? Not only does the battery run out more quickly, so does your data allocation in a tiered plan.

    4g phones are POINTLESS with tiered data. Waste of money.


    Samsung radio reception tends to be weaker than Moto devices. Especially compared to the DX. I will take the better reception over a little faster chipset over the Tegra 2. Reviewers are pointing out the DX2 reception.

    Rev or DX2 for me.

    I predict that since 4g data bandwidth is the main concern, 4g unlimited will not be grandfathered beyond a two year contract.
  14. jinwons

    jinwons Android Expert

    Samsung radios may be weaker than Moto's, but it's because Moto's radio is excellent. Samsung radios are at least comparable to or better than HTC and others.
  15. Heelpir8

    Heelpir8 Member

    Sean76's recent post about rattling coming from his phone in the DC forum has sealed the DX2 deal for me. I'm a young professional who loves his Thinkpad. Not for its looks, but for its build quality. Anything I use should be solidly built and work the first time, every time. With the DX2 there's no rattling, you can hear me loud and clear and I don't have to manually "manage" the stupid battery.
  16. Bearly

    Bearly Android Expert

    I'm willing to bet the us carriers will bothc the phone. At least Verizon likely will. I bet the botch will be in the form of devices coming with Froyo with a promise of Gingerbread. Insult to injury: the phone will be released with Froyo after Ice Cream Sandwich (dual core optimized OS) is pushed to at least the Nexus S.

    Seriously, the carriers never learn and never listen to consumers. I'm just accustomed to disappointment.
  17. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User
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    Correct! Everything is relative, my friend. I find that HTC radios have weaker signal than in Moto devices, so makes sense. I live in Kentucky, so would like a very good radio system and compromise a little with other features.... did say "a little".

    I wonder if the 4g issues will delay the LG like the Charge was?
  18. SirKronan

    SirKronan Android Expert

    In rural Wyoming my Fascinate gets great reception. :D Samsung's radios are fine. It's their GPS's that sometimes have issues (although I have thus far been blessed with a good one).
  19. Bearly

    Bearly Android Expert

    My Fascinate has a HORRIBLE speaker for incoming calls. I can barely ever hear anything and it has nothing to do with reception. In fact, with my bluetooth (highly rated, too: Plantronics Voyager Pro) the sound crackles even with the phone only a few feet away (in my pocket). Ridiculous.

    I think Samsung's pedigree probably means that it can do well with display tech, memory chips, and maybe audio tech (Wolfson chip, right?) but not necessarily well when it comes to key components of a mobile phone that impact user experience (microphone, BT, GPS). Just my guess.
  20. SirKronan

    SirKronan Android Expert

    I'll say one thing: The wide variety of experiences reported by Fascinate owners simply amazes me. It ranges from the obscenely positive to the utterly abysmal. For example, I went over to a friend's house earlier to attempt to get her Fascinate working again. She was in the middle of a text message and the phone locked up. It had been working fine for days on SuperClean 2.9.2, if I remember right. She simply rebooted it, and when it restarted, it went through the initial setup again. All contacts were erased, yet her phone call history remained. She tried to log back into her google account, but it kept saying a reliable connection to the server could not be made.

    I wiped it, cleared cache, cleared davlik, etc. many times. I tried different recoveries, kernels, radios, etc. I tried the new community ROM. I also threw everything back to stock, nixed voodoo, etc.

    At stock the phone boots and lets her login to google, but upon a reboot or attempted OTA update, it resets the phone again and asks for all the initial setup mumbo jumbo. It does this every time. Honestly, that phone has been a nightmare for her from the get go. The camera has been great, and she's loved that. She has NEVER had any call quality issues either, and she loves the screen. But software and stability wise her particular Fascinate has been a disaster.

    My dad's first Fascinate, a white one, had reception issues up the wazoo. In places he normally got three or four bars with his old phone (and I got three or four with MY fascinate) he was getting only 1-2 bars right out of the box, and dropping calls here and there. Try as they might, Verizon folk couldn't figure it out over the phone or in the store with a tech. They replaced it with a black one. Worked like a charm ever since. Perfect reception, and good voice quality.

    My Fascinate has been monkey'd around with quite a bit, as I like messing with roms and kernels and such. But I've never had reception problems. Dropped calls are exceedingly few and far between. Yes, my Droid X was better, but the Fascinate I have is still great. I disabled voice privacy, and that helped with the garbley digital-sounding feel to voice calls a little, but it wasn't that bad to start with. I continue to place calls on it with no problems. My wife is on a 2.2 leaked ROM - haven't had time to flash the community ROM yet, but her Fascinate has actually been pretty darn reliable and stable for the most part.

    And here you are with a Fascinate who's phone part sucks. Because of how varied my experience has been with Fascinates (and I have personally used over half a dozen of them, including my brother's and sister's Fascinates as well) I am not surprised you had issues with yours. What a hit and miss phone.

    I still partially blame all the crap Verizon puts on it for one thing. There are a RIDICULOUS amount of processes and system apps running in the background on Verizon's stock android build for the Fascinate. It's even bad on this new Droid X2. I really hate all the crap they put on their phones that runs all the time. SuperClean and other ROMs for the Fascinate show how powerful and fast the device would be if it weren't for Verizon. Sad that such a great network has to treat the handset side of their business so poorly. I appreciate all they put into their network, but they need to catch up on the android phone front again.

    I thought they had turned over a new leaf with their "Droid Does" push, but now they're back to the same old. VZ finally has a dual core phone, with the same inferior screen as the Atrix, but unlike the Atrix it's months late in coming (not referring to the announced release date, but comparing to when AT&T got their 1st tegra phone), has an inferior form factor (at least in my opinion), a less powerful stock battery, and NO 4G ... or even 3.5G, if you will.

    That said, it's still the best for phone calls. 4G doesn't yet affect voice quality in the least, so users who want the fastest phone currently available on Verizon are also going to get the best actual phone.
  21. Vehtemas

    Vehtemas Android Expert

    Never understood the argument of how I will burn through a tiered 4G super quick...

    Sure the data I pull will be that much faster, but it is not like I am watching videos on 4G anyways.

    Also, what do you think is going to happen after your contract on the tbolt/charge goes away? You will be in the same mud as everyone else...

    The amount of things I load off of 3G is very small, I use a total of 1-2 GB of bandwidth per month and do not stream radio/video/youtube unless I am at home or on wifi.

    Would unlimited 4G be nice? Sure, but I am not going to get a subpar pile of crap for 2 years...

    And yes I have tried the TBolt, it is plagued by software issues that I refuse to participate in.
  22. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User
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    There are probably just as many people that use more data than your example. I think that 4G unlimited "forever" is a pipe-dream. The 4G bandwidth and data usage is their number one concern and is in consideration of the iPhone 5, which will be a 4G device (supposed to be).

    Like it or not, iPhone 5 will be HUGE, so 4G unlimited is going away, prior to the launch, or a large accumulation of Android 4G devices- whichever is first (hence the summer kill date for new unlimited plans).


    A test for grandfathering will be when legacy unlimited data customers try to buy discounted 3G or 4G phones AFTER unlimited goes away. If they are allowed to keep unlimited, granfathering is validated for the time being.
  23. jinwons

    jinwons Android Expert

    Here in Southern California, I haven't seen any Fascinate user complaining on call quality. It sounds super clear.

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