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Tinnitus. Dehydration and Emf sensitivity from phone anyone?

Discussion in 'Android Lounge' started by sig99, Apr 13, 2020.

  1. sig99

    sig99 Newbie
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    Hi folks just wondering if anyone suffers from any of the above in the title.

    I've suffered from tinnitus ever since a Motorhead gig years ago!
    The thing is about 20 minutes after using my phone - (Moto G7 power) it flares up twice as bad every time.

    I also get quite dehydrated even after taking breaks from it.

    I read that Motorola is quite high on the radiation scale. I think iPhones are at the top. Any thoughts/preventions?

    I always use speaker phone or tube headphones but can feel quite ill shortly after using the phone.

    I believe Samsung are the only company addressing the radiation issue.
    Guess a lot of people think you're crazy when talking about Emf sensitivity etc.
    Watched a documentary about some people fleeing to Virginia as it has no WiFi etc because they are so sensitive/I'll because of it.

    Anyway would love to know your thoughts/advice.

    Cheers

    Nate
     



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  2. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    Welcome in the Android Forums :)

    I also suffer from tinnitus, best advice is to have a small air purifyer in your room, also have one of those like drinks by your hand too, but it is strange how those two are connected? I do not think it was realy connected or not together anyways, my tinnitus I was born with, so I cannot give you any more advice then that either, but it was a different way of gathering up all the intel that you can too, anyways you can just google the rest later on.
     
  3. sig99

    sig99 Newbie
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    Thanks Milo. Yeah I've been looking into devices that can help. I might try the air purifier. I bought a decent pair of blue light blocking glasses that seem to help a little. Thanks.
     
  4. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    And you can pretty much toy around with your phone light settings, and comp settings down to a more reddish tint.
     
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  5. MoodyBlues

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    Well, I've had nothing but Motorola smartphones... :thinking:

    Anyway, yes, I have tinnitus--and I know exactly when it started. It was a brain tumor growing along the seventh and eighth cranial nerves, the right auditory nerve, and the right vestibular nerve. The tinnitus started before, and got much worse after, I had a middle fossa craniotomy. It's permanent. But it doesn't bother me any more!

    I always--and I mean 24/7--have background noise on. It's primarily a TV, but also the fan or AC from the AC unit. I have to consciously stop and think about it, and focus on it, to even hear it any more.

    By the way, there is no connection between hearing and tinnitus. I learned this from the man I consider a god among mere mortals, my lead brain surgeon, a neurotologist, who pioneered the surgical approach used in my operation, for my specific type of tumor. He said that even profoundly deaf people, including those born without auditory nerves, and those whose auditory nerves were removed--and therefore cannot be helped by hearing aids--can and do experience tinnitus. So any 'miracle cures' you see claiming to get rid of tinnitus are pure bullshit. :eek:
     
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  6. sig99

    sig99 Newbie
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    Thanks for the info Moody blues. Yeah I also get an intense whooshing/whinewhine occasionally - It's like one ear goes deaf for a second then a whooshing/whine passes from one ear to the other for about 20 .
    seconds.

    I can tolerate the standard tinnitus, but the amplified one after using the phone is really annoying.

    Cheers for your detailed response.
     
  7. MoodyBlues

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    You're welcome!

    The whooshing sound you describe really sounds more like vertigo and/or an inner ear problem than tinnitus. When it happens, or, really, any time, are you experiencing any dizziness or nausea? Does the room spin?
     
  8. sig99

    sig99 Newbie
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    No, not from that, but I do get a few dizzy spells randomly now and again.
    Luckily I've got an ENT appointment soon. So may clear up some questions.

    Thanks
     
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  9. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    Whoosing sound?
    Huh, I do not get that all, just rining in the ears.
     
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  10. MoodyBlues

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    Excellent! I won't be surprised at all if s/he finds an inner ear infection/other issue. Let us know!
     
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  11. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    It is all bullshit because no one can really know what, is going on in your head anyways.
    I always have something in the background to tone it down for the bit as well too,
    still it varries on different types of mesurement too.
     
  12. olbriar

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    I feel sorry for those that suffer from tinnitus. As deaf as I am and as much correction it takes to hear again, I fortunately don't have tinnitus. It must be maddening. Do you have some background in your aids Milo?
     
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  13. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    It is alright, usually around in the home, I only wear them around on depends on when I get up and wash up, so around usually ten in the morning, until around, 10 p.m., I take them off.
     
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  14. olbriar

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    I get it. I take my ears off when I'm mowing. Otherwise I'm wearing them. Makes my world seem much larger.
     
  15. MoodyBlues

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    Did you read my post?! :) For me, it's neither maddening nor do I want anyone to feel sorry for me. But I actually do understand your thinking, because I used to feel the same way.

    When I first learned about tinnitus, I was terrified of getting it. I thought it would literally drive me insane. I couldn't imagine never having quiet, always having unwanted noise in my head.

    And then I got it.

    See my first post for my take on it. It's no big deal! :D
     
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  16. mikedt

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    Not had these problems myself, but I did learn from watching Youtube that 5G networks can cause coronavirus and cancer.
     
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  17. MoodyBlues

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    Thankfully, my team of brain surgeons did know what was going on in there. Their skill and experience saved my hearing on the right side.

    Lesser-skilled surgeons would've sacrificed the right auditory nerve, rather than meticulously dissect the tumor off of it. Once that nerve's gone, you're profoundly deaf and cannot be helped by hearing aids.

    Prior to surgery, we discussed all possible outcomes, including sacrificing the auditory nerve if necessary. They told me about a very cool hearing aid, whose name escapes me right now. It consists of earpieces for both ears; one, in the deaf ear, acts as a receiver/microphone. It works by transmitting sound emanating from the deaf side into the speaker in the other side's earpiece. So although you don't actually hear anything on the deaf side, you do hear everything that made sound on that side--just in the other ear. Cool! I was put under knowing that I might wake up completely deaf on the right, and I was prepared to get that hearing aid set ASAP!
     
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  18. Milo Willamson

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    Sounds like Pharaox, to me, I did my research online and they have something extremely similiar to that, I do have several of the programs even when my tinnitus gets super out of wack, it just amplifies even inside the littlest soundwaves... still I think it only covers around 50% of amplifiying, still need to do a little more elbow greese. :D
     
  19. Hadron

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    Not wanting to belittle the OP's experience, which I'm sure is genuine, but I am very sceptical that "EMF sensitivity" is the real mechanism here. The fact that say that they suffer even when using speakerphone comes close to being a proof that that is not the reason: since phone antennae are not terribly directional the field strength will drop off as approximately (1/distance)^2. That means that when the phone is 1m from your head you will receive perhaps 1/1,000 of the dose you would receive when holding it next to your ear (assuming the antenna would be a few cm from the important parts of the ear or brain when held against your head). If that isn't enough to remove the effect then I would be looking for a different cause.

    I'm also wary of claimed mechanisms that require a few people to be thousands of times more sensitive to a physical effect than others are (disclosure: I'm a physicist, though I normally work with photons 10^20 times more energetic than microwave radiation ;)).

    Actually tinnitus is associated with hearing loss, so people with no auditory nerve experiencing it doesn't seem too surprising to me.

    I've read the theory that at least some of it comes from the brain responding to the lack of an input, which is sort of consistent with my own experience that I can temporarily suppress my own mild tinnitus (following an ear infection) by spending a minute near a speaker hooked up to a frequency generator set to the top of my hearing range or just above (an accidental discovery in an undergraduate laboratory...).
     
  20. MoodyBlues

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    Perhaps, but I like to take the word of the world's most renowned brain surgeon for my specific tumor, the man who wrote the book on the middle fossa craniotomy approach for its removal, and who other doctors from around the globe send their most difficult cases to for surgery. :)
     
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  21. Hadron

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    I don't see any contradiction between what you reported and an association between tinnitus and hearing loss though (which seems a pretty widely held medical opinion in my reading). Both point to the source being in the auditory processes of the brain rather than in the mechanism of the ear.
     
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  22. Milo Willamson

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    Still any guesses why people have it though?
     
  23. MoodyBlues

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    Yes, I suppose. Just something about, "Actually tinnitus is associated with hearing loss," hit me like my brain surgeon doesn't know what he's talking about. :eek:

    I know you well enough to know that it's doubtful you actually meant that, but it hit me that way. Sorry for any bruised feelings.

    To restate what my surgeon told me, tinnitus isn't a hearing/ear problem, and even affects people who've never had hearing, or the anatomical ability to hear. So it's not actually a sound...it just sounds like one. :)
     
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  24. Steven58

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    Hi @sig99

    Welcome to Android Forums. Tinnitus happens. It's best to avoid loud noises and excessive Nsaids (ibuprophen) and caffeine, which contribute to exacerbation. Perhaps a simple start for you would be try to turn your volume down. Before anyone flames me, I just perused through the others' answers, because I'm very busy at work. Perhaps that was mentioned. I did, however, want to add my opinion and warmly welcome you here as you seem relatively newish!.

    Steven
     
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