Root UbuntU Mobile Os Port Possible???

[davidmargolin]

ubuntu mobile os just came out and i just wanted to know if our phone can handle it and if making a port of it over from the available image for the nexus 4 is at all possible... would love to see this thing over on the 3d...

source: Canonical announces its Ubuntu smartphone OS | Android Central

 

[howlofdawn]

Saw that this morning. I would say possible, but doubt its going to be easy.
Keynote mentioned working with android drivers and whatnot. We don't have upstream HTC code but we have costume kernels we could use to port for. Then again I might be wrong since I'm not too familiar with any of this.

 

[Prinny]

If I'm not mistaken...aren't some of the kernels we now use Linux kernels...?

But regardless...This would be my daily if we got it working

 

[Rxpert83]

The android kernel is Linux based

I've tried Ubuntu on my nexus 7. Its got a long way to go

 

[davidmargolin]

The android kernel is Linux based

I've tried Ubuntu on my nexus 7. Its got a long way to go

yeah, the ports weren't 2 great but this is something ubuntu designed from the bottom up so i would assume it runs better than the nexus 7 'desktop' versions...

 

[Rxpert83]

I think this is what the nexus 7 was running


It was official from canocial

 

[ramjet73]

If I'm not mistaken...aren't some of the kernels we now use Linux kernels...?

But regardless...This would be my daily if we got it working

Really? How many users would want a phone interface that looks like Ubuntu desktop? And from what I saw in the video it doesn't, so that pretty much negates the concept of having one OS platform for many device types.

What would you see as the advantages of running this versus Android? Google probably wouldn't allow it to access the thousands of apps in the Play Store or their services like Google Voice and Google+ except from the browser interfaces for those apps.

After all the effort that went into getting MMS for VM working on AOSP based ROM's, imagine the issues in getting all the apps used on a daily basis ported over and working on another OS, and it would take a lot of resources to accomplish that. With Apple, Google and Microsoft as the major players in the mobile phone market, can a company like Canonical really compete?

IMO, Ubuntu has a better chance of succeeding on tablets, and should try to get a foothold there first. Here's the vendor's webpage for the phone version of Ubuntu and I don't see any specifications on hardware requirements, but with enough effort it could probably be ported to run on most devices that can support Jelly Bean.

My guess is that this will be pretty much of a novelty on phones, but I could be wrong. I just don't see any problems with the current phone OS's that it solves.

ramjet73

 

[davidmargolin]

@ramjet
correct, no better features than what google already gives us or will give us this year... but its always nice to see new things on this toy...

 

[howlofdawn]

Really? How many users would want a phone interface that looks like Ubuntu desktop? And from what I saw in the video it doesn't, so that pretty much negates the concept of having one OS platform for many device types.

What would you see as the advantages of running this versus Android? Google probably wouldn't allow it to access the thousands of apps in the Play Store or their services like Google Voice and Google+ except from the browser interfaces for those apps.

After all the effort that went into getting MMS for VM working on AOSP based ROM's, imagine the issues in getting all the apps used on a daily basis ported over and working on another OS, and it would take a lot of resources to accomplish that. With Apple, Google and Microsoft as the major players in the mobile phone market, can a company like Canonical really compete?

IMO, Ubuntu has a better chance of succeeding on tablets, and should try to get a foothold there first. Here's the vendor's webpage for the phone version of Ubuntu and I don't see any specifications on hardware requirements, but with enough effort it could probably be ported to run on most devices that can support Jelly Bean.

My guess is that this will be pretty much of a novelty on phones, but I could be wrong. I just don't see any problems with the current phone OS's that it solves.

ramjet73

Actually there are hw requirements on the page
Operator and OEM partners | Ubuntu for phones | Ubuntu

And it'll probably be as much of a novelty as people running linux on computers. sure its there and not many companies sell gnu/linux computers by default, some allow you to ask no operating system in it so its a hard ware buy and you configure the system however you want it.
I'd see something similar for this on phones. there will be those sold with it, far and few. but there will still be the option of devs and even users who are willing to get this working on their phones.

 

[mrawesome22]

I think Ubuntu on a tablet would pretty awesome if it could run all the desktop apps fluently.

Running apps like Gimp, watching movies with VLC, file sharing with trasmission... on a tablet. Now that would be cool.

 

[koopakid08]

Definitely possible, they said they made it possible to use android kernels and drivers.

Until they actually release source, not much anyone can say for sure.

I for one like it. The multitasking gestures look like a nice feature.

 

[Branhower]

Really? How many users would want a phone interface that looks like Ubuntu desktop? And from what I saw in the video it doesn't, so that pretty much negates the concept of having one OS platform for many device types.

What would you see as the advantages of running this versus Android? Google probably wouldn't allow it to access the thousands of apps in the Play Store or their services like Google Voice and Google+ except from the browser interfaces for those apps.

After all the effort that went into getting MMS for VM working on AOSP based ROM's, imagine the issues in getting all the apps used on a daily basis ported over and working on another OS, and it would take a lot of resources to accomplish that. With Apple, Google and Microsoft as the major players in the mobile phone market, can a company like Canonical really compete?

IMO, Ubuntu has a better chance of succeeding on tablets, and should try to get a foothold there first. Here's the vendor's webpage for the phone version of Ubuntu and I don't see any specifications on hardware requirements, but with enough effort it could probably be ported to run on most devices that can support Jelly Bean.

My guess is that this will be pretty much of a novelty on phones, but I could be wrong. I just don't see any problems with the current phone OS's that it solves.

ramjet73

Quoted for truth.

I think Ubuntu on a tablet would pretty awesome if it could run all the desktop apps fluently.

Running apps like Gimp, watching movies with VLC, file sharing with trasmission... on a tablet. Now that would be cool.

The Windows guys have this argument all the time; and it's pretty well agreed that the desktop environment is not ideal for touch. I'd think this would be cool too, but the novelty would wear off pretty fast unless you got a mouse nearby.

 

[mrawesome22]

As soon as I saw Unity my first thought was "Hmm... wonder when the ububtu tablets will start rolling out?"

To me, Unity could be a great tablet interface that sucks as a desktop solution.

 

[mysticalnyte]

The price point might be fairly cheap for a tablet version if it happens, imo.

 

[BigBossman]

Do you think that even if Canoncial doesn't offer it, a dev would be willing to make a mod haha

 

[landonh12]

Guys, in the video, they stated that Ubuntu would be the same image for desktops and phones/tablets, and the phone OS will run off of Android kernels. This means any phone meeting the minimum requirements will run Ubuntu out of the box.

Don't expect having this on your phone anytime soon. The scheduled release is April 2014, with the release of Ubuntu 14.04.

Edit: Also, the OS will not cost money. The mission of Ubuntu/Linux is to sustain an open source and free operating system.

 

[davidmargolin]

Guys, in the video, they stated that Ubuntu would be the same image for desktops and phones/tablets, and the phone OS will run off of Android kernels. This means any phone meeting the minimum requirements will run Ubuntu out of the box.

Don't expect having this on your phone anytime soon. The scheduled release is April 2014, with the release of Ubuntu 14.04.

galaxy nexus image files will be released within the next 2 weeks...

 

[landonh12]

galaxy nexus image files will be released within the next 2 weeks...

Yes, but it may not be fully functional. That is a release for development.

 

[davidmargolin]

Yes, but it may not be fully functional. That is a release for development.

not planing to use it as a daily... we prob wont be able to get a lot of things going... just want a new toy to play with for a bit

 

[ramjet73]

So how does this relate to Ubuntu for Android | Devices | Ubuntu? Is that version available yet? After watching the video for Ubuntu for Android it seems like the latest version is just that base with a phone interface added. Kind of like Windows RT for the Surface.

BTW, I agree that it would fun to play with, but not a serious competitor to Android, iOS and WP8 in the big picture of mobile OS's.

ramjet73

 

[mrawesome22]

If it had better features and a better interface than Android, why couldn't it compete?

If Canonical can get oem's to ship it on their devices, and people like it.... competitor.

And Conanical has pletty of "persuasion" funds to play with.

 

[Kamau]

Saw this this morning, but have no idea why it was such a big deal. I wish someone would explain to me what a UbuntU is, because I'd probably get it then.

 

[davidmargolin]

Saw this this morning, but have no idea why it was such a big deal. I wish someone would explain to me what a UbuntU is, because I'd probably get it then.

seriously???

 

[howlofdawn]

Saw this this morning, but have no idea why it was such a big deal. I wish someone would explain to me what a UbuntU is, because I'd probably get it then.

Its an operating system, runs on top of linux. unlike android though its been on desktop space for some time. the deal here is getting it to make a bridge between mobile and desktop use

 

[Prinny]

Saw this this morning, but have no idea why it was such a big deal. I wish someone would explain to me what a UbuntU is, because I'd probably get it then.

Ubuntu is one of the most used Linux operating systems to date. Usually its the first one anyone tries. I know it was for me.