Whew. I'm glad you said "Verizon". Now I can leave my phone on tonight. If AT&T schedules an update the battery comes out, just to be sure. I only have 24GB free - I can't afford all those "improvements".

 

If I'm running Hyperdrive on Slot 1 I shouldn't get any kind of notification, right? If you expect I will, is there a step-by-step somewhere on freezing that?

Thanks!

 

Thanks for the heads up, I've frozen LocalFOTAv2_1308_1_1 and SDM 1.0 so there should be no surprises. But I have a quick question... I know that taking a OTA while rooted could possibly break root; but could it do other harm? (i.e. Bricking the phone?)

 

I read that Hyperdrive ROM removes the Samsung and Verizon OTA updaters, so I shouldn't get anything UNLESS I return to Stock Slot and the stock ROM.



Bassjo: Not sure about bricking, but if you're rooted and ROMmed, root will likely be broken, the ability to remove root apps disabled, and Safestrap broken. If Safestrap can't boot, one of two things will happen:

(a) The phone will boot normally into the updated stock ROM and you've lost all your hard work.

(b) The phone will continuously try to boot into a ROM slot that has been disabled, and will be caught in a perpetual bootloop.

Which will happen? I DON'T KNOW! And I don't mean to find out. Anyone wanting to root & ROM need to do so NOW and not accept that OTA.

 

No it shouldn't if anything it might force you to perform a factory reset, if the update already doesn't do that on it's own (which is shouldn't, but who knows from Verizon)

 

Ok. I've not strung together enough free time to really digest the kingo method for rooting the N3. I dont really know what freeze "LocalFOTAv2_1308_1_1 and SDM 1.0" means, except that I'm thinking that if you had root, perhaps those are individual processes.

Work vacation starts friday. I plan to read more about rooting then and getting into Chiefs rooting guide. What should I do until then. Try to avoid updating the new upgrade. is there a way to disable automatic ota acceptance?

 

Ok my VzW is trying to get me to accept the update. I hit the home button to avoid answering. Hitting cancel just ask me for a timer on when to update. I want to root though. I think I need to do that BEFORE the new update right?

I am on MJ7 right now.

Is following chief s guide the most preferred? Riker your last post confused me but I think I can worry about that later after I root. Using Kingo I think.

Looking for advice on steps that in end end result on me being rooted and having the OTA.

Which then gets me thinking. If Kingo uses slots.. what rooted rom is in the other slot? Something that incorporates the update?

 

Not a complete noob. But not expert. What is meant by "pit" for MJ7. MJ7 is the current VzW load. Not sure what put means.

What's md5?

Odin. I don't have but I know it's something for the pic to connect/work on samsung devices.

Did you have the slot stuff setup? What that lost after ota? When you say you used Kingo is that like saying you followed the whole entire rooting with Kingo process again? Or somehow just pointed back to the slot you were using?

Why load is the rom in slot 1 built on? If not the new load. Then why the the OTA?


Thanks for clarification.

 

Jetguat, if you accept the OTA there is no guarantee that my root Guide will work. The OTA will likely patch the root exploits that Kingo uses. Root first, then install Safestrap and a custom ROM that blocks OTA notifications. I suggest Hyperdrive RLS4. Great ROM.

But your goal of having root AND the OTA is a pipe-dream. You simply can't have both at current time.

MD5 is a checksum calculation that ensures your download is good. It runs calculations of the ones and zeros in the file, and creates an MD5 for the file. When you download the file, run a program like WinMD5 to verify the MD5s match. Once it's on your phone, open a file manager like ES File Explorer, Astro or Root Explorer, long-press the file and hit "Properties". It will calculate the MD5 for you.

 

Chief,

First, wanted to say that your posts and guide are the reason I took the plunge and rooted this already perfect phone. I really want to thank you for that.
Things have changed since you put up your guide due to the OTA but it is a great start to learning this stuff.
You CAN have root after the OTA and there are 3 roms that work. CleanRom, JellyBeans, and Stock.
Basically you have to Odin back to stock MJ7 using a .tar file. Reboot up and accept the OTA. This will also add new baseband-MJE and kernel. Then just use Kingo to root again. Reinstall safestrap and start all over with the 3 roms that currently work on MJE. I have done all this as have many others.
To Jet,
Take your time and read all the active threads over at XDA Verizon Developement forum. Really make sure you have your head wrapped around the major elements like Kingo, Odin, and Safestrap. Once you do it'll be like a lightbulb going off in your head and you'll jump right in. Or...you won't.
Good luck and thanks again Chief!
By the way, I'm salivating here waiting on sbreen to update Hyperdrive to MJE. Best rom so far.

 

So the quick point is with me on stock MJ7. I can accept the OTA to ME7. So i would still be 100% stock and unrooted. Then I can use the kingo method (with other stuff.. odin) to root.

At this point it seems I can use safestrap and use a new slot with a custom rom. Or I can stay rooted with stock rom. Use TBpro to freeze apps I don't want. And if/when next ota comes up I just need to pit and md5. Riker why did you need to flash back to stock? Besides freezing did you remove stuff? I would think of you only froze stuff you can simply unfreeze right?

Dougdirr. Will head over to x da to read there. They are great also. In the VzW forum? Does the rooting thread describe what hyperdrive rom gets you?

 

You're right. The new OTA apparently does NOT break root. I have updated the Guide to MJE but I find nowhere in the Guide where it says that the OTA will break root. Maybe in the thread comments, but the Guide stops in the OP.

I apologize to my throng of fans ( all 3 of you ) for your patience. You have no idea what RL has thrown at me lately. I will, however, endeavor to do my best to keep the Guide as up to date as possible.



EDIT: That said...

Is anyone in here really going to UNDO all their work just to update to MJ7; then re-root, re-strap, re-ROM and set everything back up again? Seems like a heck of a lot of work for an OTA update I won't even be using...

 

That kinda was what I was thinking, unless the update was substantial or actually fixed things I was complaining about, I'll just stick with what works.

(BTW: I'm not complaining about anything, my note works great.)

 

I did. But, I also made nandroids of my ROM slots and simply restored them when I was done, so I didn't feel it was that big of a deal.

 

I heard mixed reports on if foxfi still works after MJ7. With custom ROM I suppose full tether is allowed. But does foxfi work in MJ7? I am wondering why I would want MJ7 is foxfi is broken. Sorta like touchwiz. Would like root, tether, touchwiz, and frozen bloat I think. I could do that with Kingo on MJE I think. But not on MJ7 from what I hear

 

If I wanted to update to the latest and greatest firmware... would it be safe to unfreeze all the apps frozen and use Kies 3 to "restore" to the updated MJE factory image then reroot, etc...?

 

Thanks for the information.