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General Verizon S3 Update Announced

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by treb1797, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. treb1797

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    Doesn't exactly sound like a good thing?
     
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    So with this update including a kernel, does that mean the bootloader has to be unlocked to install said new kernel?
     
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    The bootloader is encrypted. Verizon has the code and can do his. Perhaps the xda folks can grab something off this update to break the encryption?
     
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    The update won't load unless the bootloader sees that the OTA is properly signed. So yes, unless the bootloader is unlocked, your device would have to have the stock bootloader and most likely ROM to install this newest update.

    If you are not stock and rooted, I wouldn't go back to stock to get the update just yet until the developers get a chance to see what's up. Most likely Verizon has requested that Samsung plug the holes in the original software that allowed root and using kexec to bypass the stock kernel in any "updates" we receive.
     
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    should be a great thing honestly...yes our search is dumbed down (but ive yet to use it once)...but the new baseband should hopefully improve radio performance...
     
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    Forgive my ignorance, but can someone tell me how I can currently do a search through my phone? Thanks.
     
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    Sounds just like something Verizon would do. Lure us rooted users in with new baseband files with possibly better radio performance.

    So tempting.... evil Verizon. :(
     
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    Can't the devs find the encryption in the OTA and copy paste to crack the bootloader? Sign the encryption to other kernels?
     
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    Haven't rooted and would love better radio performance. Best would be if this new kernel included an unencrypted bootloader as we should have.
     
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    If it was that easy, the Droid X bootloader would have been unencrypted years ago, so don't get your hopes up.
     
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    I thought they cracked the X.
     
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    The droid x originally shipped with an un-encrypted bootloader. It wasn't until it was out for like more than a year that an OTA came along and ruined paradise with an encrypted bootloader.
     
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    Thats almost like saying youre gonna walk into a bank and look for the "keys" they use to unlock the vault, then proceed to unlock the vault and take the "loot", and walk out without getting caught on a monday morning. Maybe not so much as that but it is a tall order.
     
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    But it is possible right? Compare the lines of code and hit the lottery?
     
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    False. It was released locked down.
     
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    Droid x always had a locked bootloader. Same goes for all motorola phones. Each new bootloader usually has a new encryption on it so it's not as easy as taking it from the new one and putting it on the old one. Doesn't work that way.
     
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    I said it was released un-encrypted, not "not locked down".
     
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    the update HAS to happen...the real reason is the borking of the search feature...it has to happen to prevent the S3 being blocked by Apple over patent issues

    amen

    never, still have not

    WHAT!? i owned a DX from day 1...it was ALWAYS encrypted

    and youre still wrong
     
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    They found a way to bypass the bootloader with what's called a second-init boot, basically a hack, on the Droid X. I've not been following XDA super close, but I believe that's what they're trying to do on the VZ GS3....Hopefully we'll be able to get that.

    I am rooted, so I'm just going to click no or maybe freeze the update apk until they root the image and restore Google search. I'd love a baseband update though...
     
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    the approach for the GS3 is VERY different than what has been done with the DX...VERY VERY different
     
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    To give you an idea of the difficulty of un-encrypting the encryption on a digital signing key (or whatever its called), it took the PSP hacking community about 8 years to extract.
     
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    Why not just re-root after the update and restore the original voice search apk? Heck, you could even install the vastly superior Google Now Voice Search.

    Download and Install Latest Google Now Voice Search APK on Rooted Galaxy S3 | Root Galaxy S3
     
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    After updating will we have to go through all the apps we disabled and disable them again?
     
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    No. It's not a factory reset. Apps should stay disabled.
     

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