Root [Virgin Mobile] Quick question re: future OTA updates & root

[KOAM]

Apologies because I have a feeling this has been asked before, but I couldn't find anything through a search.. probably because the search terms are so basic.

I just rooted my S3 (4.3 stock) and am going to keep it on the stock rom, but I want to know if/when the official KitKat OTA update comes, is it safe to update as usual? It's fine if it unroots as I'm sure there will be a way to root it again, but I want to be sure it's not something to avoid right away.

Thanks very much.

 

[sean19661]

You might not be able to update on custom recovery but flash via Odin to get kit kat

 

[MopedRyder]

Root will not remain so you would have to reroot it. The issue I believe is if you have flashed a custom recovery (TWRP, CWM) the OTA update, if and when it comes, may not work. I believe you must be on a stock recovery to install it.

 

[jdsingle76]

MopedRyder is 100% correct. Once the OTA drops, simply flash the 4.3 Odin tar to get back to 100% stock unrooted(this process will wipe your internal memory so back up your files on your PC), then get the OTA, and root and flash or whatever you want. If you don't care about your warranty and Knox, KitKat update is already available through Sprint and works fine on our phones.

 

[mudflap2020]

MopedRyder is 100% correct. Once the OTA drops, simply flash the 4.3 Odin tar to get back to 100% stock unrooted(this process will wipe your internal memory so back up your files on your PC), then get the OTA, and root and flash or whatever you want. If you don't care about your warranty and Knox, KitKat update is already available through Sprint and works fine on our phones.

Or you could just flash the stock recovery(don't know if it has to be specific to mk5 or if it can be from earlier 'just ask JD single, but after that you should be able to take the ota, I had to use this method when accepting ota's for the nvidia shield

 

[tigerstv44]

MopedRyder is 100% correct. Once the OTA drops, simply flash the 4.3 Odin tar to get back to 100% stock unrooted(this process will wipe your internal memory so back up your files on your PC), then get the OTA, and root and flash or whatever you want. If you don't care about your warranty and Knox, KitKat update is already available through Sprint and works fine on our phones.

JDsingle76: I'm on stock mk5 and have yet to flash any roms. I want to receive the kitkat ota when it finally comes. I have philz 6 latest version 6.41.6 custom recovery. Is there just way to flash the stock recovery, so kitkat ota will work correctly. Flashing your mk5 4.3 do this for me?? Of course will continue to read the postings, just wanted to ask an expert on this posting.

thx, Steve

 

[jdsingle76]

JDsingle76: I'm on stock mk5 and have yet to flash any roms. I want to receive the kitkat ota when it finally comes. I have philz 6 latest version 6.41.6 custom recovery. Is there just way to flash the stock recovery, so kitkat ota will work correctly. Flashing your mk5 4.3 do this for me?? Of course will continue to read the postings, just wanted to ask an expert on this posting.

thx, Steve

Thanks for the remarks but I assure you I'm no expert. You have to be on stock recovery to take the KK ota and the only way to get that is to flash the stock mk5 tar. Here's the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2746294

 

[sanjuro77]

So I've flashed the mk5 stock tar and am back to stock. Before i went back to stock, I copied the KK update i received to my SD card, is there a way to install this through stock recovery? So far it fails when I try when it is checking the current system, something about a .ko file not having the expected contents and an error 7.
I have not rerooted yet.

 

[moonknightus]

So I've flashed the mk5 stock tar and am back to stock. Before i went back to stock, I copied the KK update i received to my SD card, is there a way to install this through stock recovery? So far it fails when I try when it is checking the current system, something about a .ko file not having the expected contents and an error 7.
I have not rerooted yet.

If you can upload the zip file, we may be able to make a version that is flashable via custom recovery.

 

[sanjuro77]

Right on, thanks. It's uploading now. I'll edit this with the link when it's up.

I guess that would help others that don't want to wait for the update to show up again!


Here's the update file, mk5 to ndc ~

http://d-h.st/XnO

 

[jdsingle76]

Right on, thanks. It's uploading now. I'll edit this with the link when it's up.

I guess that would help others that don't want to wait for the update to show up again!


Here's the update file, mk5 to nd8 ~

http://d-h.st/XnO

Can you find out exactly what the error message says? I'm starting to think that once Knox is tripped it won't flash.

 

[jdsingle76]

Sideload update? It seems a after reading that the update showing error messages is a common issue. I'd be interested to see if side loading would work as per the method below:

http://www.androidbeat.com/2013/12/...-update-nexus-4-nexus-5-nexus-7/#.U424Fcko7qA

 

[sanjuro77]

Can you find out exactly what the error message says? I'm starting to think that once Knox is tripped it won't flash.

Well that would suck, considering the only reason I allowed Knox on my phone to begin with was to upgrade to KK.

I think the message said lib.modules.dhd.ko didn't have the expected contents while checking the current system. It only lasts on the screen for about a second.

 

[sanjuro77]

Sideload update? It seems a after reading that the update showing error messages is a common issue. I'd be interested to see if side loading would work as per the method below:

http://www.androidbeat.com/2013/12/...-update-nexus-4-nexus-5-nexus-7/#.U424Fcko7qA

I'll have to give this a shot today. It doesn't matter that I don't have a Nexus¿

 

[jdsingle76]

I'll have to give this a shot today. It doesn't matter that I don't have a Nexus¿

No. That was written when nexus first got the kk ota. I've read of others getting it to work that way after getting an error from getting it ota.

My S3 already has the Sprint KK ND8 boot loader so unfortunately I can't test this myself or I would. Good luck to anyone who gives it a go.

 

[peter counias]

Has anyone found a kies file we can use in Odin yet??

 

[jdsingle76]

Has anyone found a kies file we can use in Odin yet??

Nope

 

[peter counias]

Hopefully it will happen soon!!

 

[jdsingle76]

Another Adb sideload install page. This is for Nexus but I don't see why it wouldn't work for the S3.

http://www.cultofandroid.com/45466/manually-install-the-android-kitkat-update-on-nexus-4/

 

[sanjuro77]

Sideload update? It seems a after reading that the update showing error messages is a common issue. I'd be interested to see if side loading would work as per the method below:

Manually Install Android 4.4.2 update on the Nexus 4, Nexus 5 and Nexus 7

No go, same result ~

Verifying current system...
"/system/lib/modules/dhd.ko" has unexpected contents.
E: Error in /tmp/update.zip
(status 7)

 

[jdsingle76]

Right on, thanks. It's uploading now. I'll edit this with the link when it's up.

I guess that would help others that don't want to wait for the update to show up again!


Here's the update file, mk5 to nd8 ~

http://d-h.st/XnO

And you mean mk5 to ndc, correct?

 

[sanjuro77]

And you mean mk5 to ndc, correct?

Yes, it appears I did mean NDC

So much Sprint talk lately, but yes, it IS the NDC Virgin Mobile update

 

[sanjuro77]

Should the stock MK5 tar I flashed with Odin have the Knox app in it, cause it doesn't. Could that be the issue? Perhaps I got the wrong tar?

 

[jdsingle76]

Should the stock MK5 tar I flashed with Odin have the Knox app in it, cause it doesn't. Could that be the issue? Perhaps I got the wrong tar?

It's stock tar, what do you mean it doesn't have it?

 

[sanjuro77]

Meaning there isn't an actual Knox app present in the drawer. The Knox boot loader is there for sure, since it's showing a flag in download mode. Just no app. My gf's s4 has a Knox app so I assumed I should too.
I was running the Knox-free mk5 beforehand.

Right now I'm connected to Kies seeing if it'll get me there. It failed once but now seems to be working (fingers crossed).

On a side note, why is Kies so unpredictable? Had to plug in 5 times before it decided it needed to reinstall its drivers.